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Wednesday, April 22, 2009

Unanswered Questions

Posted by Vance Lauderdale on Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:12 PM

The “Ask Vance” system is an imperfect one. People write in (by email and “real” mail) to me at Memphis magazine with an astonishing assortment of queries. Then they sit back and wait for me to provide them with the answer they so eagerly desire — in the form of dates, names, addresses, photographs, and other information.

Unfortunately, some of these people have been waiting a rather long time. The problem is that I now have far more questions than I can ever answer — not at these pitiful wages, anyway — and right now I’m looking at a box on my desk filled with some 300 queries from readers. Some of these epistles are more challenging than others (heck, sometimes I’m not even sure of the question), so I thought I’d pick out just a few and post them here, in hopes that you — dear readers — can help with the answers:

• I would like to know where GAY-OLA Bottling Company of Memphis was. — W.K., Memphis

• What was the date that two very unhappy elephants escaped from the Memphis Zoo and caused great excitement in the residential neighborhoods north of Overton Park? — R.H., Gadsden, Alabama

• I can’t help wondering about the sharp “S” curves on the north-south streets between Summer and Poplar, like Goodlett, Perkins, Mendenhall, and White Station. Did our city engineers “party too hearty” at Leon’s the night before they laid out the street plans? — “Sleepless in Memphis”

• What does Mr. Lauderdale know about a motorcycle or scooter being manufactured in Memphis between 1957 and 1961? I believe the manufacturer was called C&E Manufacturing. Where was C&E, and what happened to the scooter with the brand name “Argyle”? — S.B., Memphis [Note: I’ve already checked. Nothing shows up in city directories for this period. — Vance]

• I have always heard that my father, Lawrence Shurlds, and a man named Lem Boone wrote a small bridge [the game, she means] book called Stepping Stones to Sterling Bridge. Do you have any idea who Lem Boone was, or where I might find a copy of the book? — K.S., Memphis

• In the 1950s and early 1960s, I remember my dad going to a place that was like a Sonic, except you could order beer and they’d bring it to your car! Do you know what place I’m talking about? — K.S., Memphis

• I arrived in Memphis in 1949, and I remember just south of the corner of Mt. Moriah Road and Park Avenue, there was a rather large quarry. You drove down into it. Do you have any date when this quarry was filled, and by whom? — W.P., Memphis

• Who were the hosts of the local show Talent Showcase, and what years did it run? Also what year did a local show called Spellbound run, and who hosted it? — “stormking”

• I have a stock certificate from Progressive Building and Loan Association for 68 shares of stock. It was purchased by my great-grandfather in 1930. What happened to the business and is the stock worth anything? — C.H., Memphis

• I lived on Seventh Street in Hurt Village in the mid-1950s. I attended a place called Wesley House for kindergarten. I can’t remember what street it was on. Can you give me any information? — M.D., Memphis

• Recently I was in West Memphis and passed a building called the Red Barn on Broadway, which was built like a barn. It reminded me of a restaurant that had been in Memphis in the past. Was the one I saw in West Memphis built for the same reason as the one in Memphis? — A.S., Memphis

• Some in my office was wearing a Booker T. Washington Warriors High School t-shirt. I noticed that it was green and yellow, just like the shirts my mother wore at Central. Why do two Memphis public schools have the same mascot and the same school colors? — E.H., Memphis

• Is Peter Thomas, the voice on Nova, the same Peter Thomas who was on WMC-TV in the 1940s and ’50s? I was on his talent show. — N.S., Memphis.

• My girlfriend and I were trying to remember the name of a nightclub in the late 1970s or ’80s that had a beach theme and sand in the club. Can you help us? — C.J., Collierville

And finally (or at least for now):

• Do you remember the smell of the old Sears Crosstown store? It had a distinct — cold — smell. — K.M., Rockford, Illinois

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I wanna know what Shoney's Big Boy is doing half naked on the Gay-Ola bottle. Was he even consulted?

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Posted by CL Mullins on April 23, 2009 at 6:15 PM

It appears there was an Argyle scooter club in Memphis...

Motos ARGYLE Scooter-Club, Memphis TN (USA, 1957-61)

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=e… ://pboursin.club.fr/autohi3g.htm&ei=vJ37SeLQNtLEmQei5MnDBA&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=6&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%2522argyle%2Bscooter%2522%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26start%3D30

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Posted by D. Whitaker on May 1, 2009 at 8:19 PM

My memory is that the Red Barn in West Memphis and the Red Barn on Summer (in front of the old Carondolet) were both fast food type restaurants.

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Posted by spider on May 4, 2009 at 1:07 PM

Wesley House became the Susannah Wesley day care, operated by the United Methodist Neighborhood Centers of Memphis. UMNC (as its known now) was begun in 1907 by Methodist women who saw the need for kindergarten in Memphis. Susannah Wesley has been closed for a few years (not in the original building anyway) but UMNC is still alive and located at the corner of Walnut Grove and Tillman.

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Posted by Malaika79 on May 22, 2009 at 3:02 PM

I teach at Central HS and asked the same question about the mascot/colors for Booker T. Washington. I was told by a teacher who had been there for a long time that during the days of segregation, Booker T and Central were the two high schools in the area, (Central the first high school for Memphis and Booker T the first high school for "colored" people, as the times were) and so they were given the same mascot and colors as "sister" schools.

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Posted by memphis_teacher on July 11, 2009 at 3:18 PM

The international movie database shows that Neil Ross has been the narrator on Nova since 2002 and does not list Peter Thomas on the show at all.

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Posted by Tutty Fruitty on August 8, 2009 at 9:32 PM

I believe the quarry mentioned in the vicinity of Park and Mt. Moriah was actually just southwest of Mt. Moriah and I-240 where Nonconnah runs adjacent to Chuck Hutton's northernmost parking lot. I remember an old abandoned quarry in the early 60s that was locally known as Mud Lake. Many kids swam in it and jumped off a cliff which was probably not more than 20' high. At that age it seemed a lot taller than I picture it now. The bravest (or stupidist) kids would ride a bike off the cliff into the lake. I believe it was filled in during the construction of I-240 and the development of the Mt. Moriah corridor.



David Maxey

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Posted by blumax on September 18, 2009 at 4:17 PM

Lem Boone was my grandfather who lived in Lonoke, Ark., not far from Memphis. Contact me

wrboone@hotmail.com

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Posted by wrboone on March 27, 2010 at 3:26 PM

Red Barn in West Memphis next to the railroad tracks that cross Broadway was a hamburger joint back in the 1960s and '70s. They had the "best" hamburgers. It is now a Bait & tackle store.

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Posted by mommac on August 14, 2010 at 10:31 AM

Re: the location of the GAY-OLA Company in Memphis. I don't know the location of the syrup-making or bottling facility, but the business address for the Gay-Ola Co. is listed as 303 S. Main Street in this 1911 druggist's directory: GAY-OLA Bottling Company: http://bit.ly/g8FkRK

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Posted by BHa on February 7, 2011 at 9:25 AM

Here's what I know about these questions.



The "S" curves are there because the original country roads did not connect "straight up" from Park to Summer. Typical is Perkins Road from Poplar to Walnut Grove Road. You made a left on Walnut Grove and then a right to go north to Summer. Perkins Road EXTD "fixed" this problem. The "S" curves met the engineering standards and codes of their day. They also took less valuable developable land away from subdivision developers who already owned raw land along these existing - and proposed - roads.



The Red Barn was a local fast food chain - just a few stores - that promoted its fried chicken as being the specialty. This was in the early to middle '60s, as I recall. Unfortunately, no one I knew liked the chicken and the burgers were not distinctive enough from McDonald's to draw customers from the Golden Arches. The Red Barns were not around very long.



That's it for me. Good luck with the rest of these riddles.

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Posted by Publius Nemo on February 8, 2011 at 10:15 AM

The beach-themed club might have been The Aquarium.

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Posted by MWGallaher on March 23, 2011 at 11:10 AM
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