Tuesday, June 16, 2009

The Great Power Forward Search of 2009: The Candidates

Posted by Chris Herrington on Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 10:32 PM

If the Grizzlies have one primary need this offseason, beyond just the obvious "more talent," it's an upgrade at power forward, where the team currently employees two good back-ups in Darrell Arthur and Hakim Warrick. With the #2 pick in the draft, tons of cap space, and plenty of options available either in the draft, via free agency, or potentially via trade, if the Grizzlies open next season with Arthur or Warrick in the starting lineup then this offseason will have been a failure.

Here's a list of my Top 20 candidates to be the Grizzlies' new starting power forward next season, ranked in order of preference — not likelihood.

A pre-emptive note: There are a few obvious names I left off either because I find their acquisition wildly unlikely (Chris Bosh, Lamarcus Aldridge) or because neither I nor — I suspect — the team would be interested (Antawn Jamison, Shawn Marion).

The List:

Griffin.jpg1. Blake Griffin
Rebounding/Physicality: Moderate-to-High. Griffin was a monster rebounder in college and is a beast physically, so he projects as a big-time pro rebounder as well. Defensively, he should be strong enough to hold his own on the block, but his average height and wingspan suggests he's unlikely to develop into a defensive force.
Impact Potential: High. Griffin projects as a scoring and rebounding machine as his game develops and is a tough-nosed kid. He'd be a great fit for the Grizzlies, obviously.
Availability: Low. There have been no signs so far that the Clippers are interested in dealing out of the #1 pick, but until draft night comes and goes, I'm not ruling it out.

7ba8/1245205612-amare.jpg2. Amare Stoudemire
Rebounding/Physicality: Moderate. Stoudemire may be an explosive athlete, but he's never been a great rebounder and was pretty bad last season. He's capable of giving much more as a defender/rebounder, but is anyone expecting him to transform his game at age 26?
Impact Potential: High. Despite his under-recognized deficiencies, Stoudemire can be such a dominant scorer that he's still an elite option at the four, and should be for a long time to come.
Availability: Moderate-to-High. There are conflicting reports about Stoudemire's availability this summer, but there's a good chance the Suns will listen to offers even if they don't seek them out. And the Grizzlies have a demonstrated interest. The big issue, again, could be that Stoudemire can opt out of his current contract after next season. Could the Grizzlies afford to offer a big package for Stoudemire without an extension in place?

64cd/1245206085-horford.jpg3. Al Horford
Rebounding/Physicality: High. A rugged 6'10", 245 pounds, Horford is a big-time rebounder who can handle the best post players defensively. He's not a great shot-blocker, but would thrive playing his natural position next to a true center in Marc Gasol after spending most of his time out of position in Atlanta.
Impact Potential: High. Horford's offensive development as been disappointing and if he doesn't improve significantly as a scorer it may prevent him from developing into the all-star player he's capable of being. But as a rebounder, physical defender, and high-character, high-energy player, he's exactly what the team needs. He's also only 23.
Availability: Low. The only way you could see Horford available to the Grizzlies is if the Hawks really got a jones for Ricky Rubio, but it sounds like Josh Smith is more likely to be the odd-man-out in Atlanta.

5dc8/1245206349-beasley.jpg4. Michael Beasley
Rebounding/Physicality: Moderate. Beasley was a monster rebounder at Kansas State but gave a disappointing performance on the boards his rookie season and doesn't seem to have much potential as a shot-blocker and post defender. With his emerging three-point shot and ability to attack off the dribble, Beasley is more of a face-up four and could even develop into a power three in the Jamal Mashburn/Carmelo Anthony mold. I like "moderate" here only because he has the potential to improve greatly as a rebounder.
Impact Potential: High. Whether Beasley is the right kind of power forward for the Grizzlies is debatable. Whether he has the raw talent to be a big-time scorer is not.
Availability: Low. It would take a major deal for the Heat to move Beasley, and I doubt they're that interested in the #2 pick. One deal that might make some sense: A three-way that would land Beasley in Memphis, Chris Bosh in Miami, and perhaps Rudy Gay (or the #2 pick) in Toronto.

9da1/1245206523-boozer.jpg5. Carlos Boozer
Rebounding/Physicality: Moderate. Boozer has been a consistently prolific rebounder, and while he's not a defensive force, he's strong enough to hold his ground in the paint.
Impact Potential: Moderate-to-High. Two big questions about Boozer: Can he stay healthy? And will his motivation hold up after he signs his next big contract? The upside is there. Boozer is still only 27 and is a high-level scorer and rebounder who has proven himself in the post-season.
Availability: High (if he opts out). Boozer has an opt-out that he's sent mix signals about. If he does opt out and Utah doesn't resign him, then his options are limited for a big payday. Detroit's the likely destination, but if the Grizzlies are interested, I'm sure he would listen.

c35a/1245206763-okafor.jpg6. Emeka Okafor
Rebounding/Physicality: High. Okafor has averaged better than 10 rebounds and 1.5 blocks per game every season of his career and would immediately become the best rebounder in franchise history. At 6'10", 255, he's been a slightly undersized center for most of his Bobcat career, but would be a nice fit next to Marc Gasol at the power forward.
Impact Potential: Moderate-to-High. Okafor is an extremely limited offensive player, but the Grizzlies need rebounding and defense at the "4" more than a go-to scorer. At 26, Okafor probably won't get any better, but should be able to play at his current level through the length of his current contract. Okafor's had some injury problems but has played a full 82 the past two seasons.
Availability: High? I hadn't really thought about Okafor as a Grizzlies' target until veteran NBA scribe Sam Smith suggested earlier this week that the Bobcats would seek to slash payroll this summer and would be willing to sacrifice Okafor to do so. If that's true, then the Grizzlies — who need a player of Okafor's attributes and have the cap space to bring the Bobcats immediate relief — are an obvious trade partner. Okafor is well-compensated, but if he can stay healthy he's probably only moderately overpaid, with a contract that's $10.5 million next season and tops out at $14.5 in the 2013-2014 season. I like this possibility.

87ec/1245206998-love.jpg7. Kevin Love
Rebounding/Physicality: Moderate. The Love Train is a beast on the boards — one the league's best per-minute rebounders as a rookie. A little undersized and floor-bound, he's not a great defender, but is at least willing to put a body on somebody.
Impact Potential: High. As long as his conditioning and knee questions don't pop up again, Love is going to be a high-level pro, maybe even the new Bill Laimbeer. The rebounding is already there. I suspect the passing and shooting skills Love showed in college will come along next. Not a perfect fit next to Marc Gasol — that would be a slow frontcourt, but also a tough, smart one.
Availability: Low-to-Moderate. Hard to tell, really, with a new GM at the helm in Minnesota, but there are rumors out there of the Wolves looking to move up to #2, with Love as the bait.

9b60/1245207201-thompson.jpg8. Jason Thompson
Rebounding/Physicality: Moderate. At 6'11", 250, Thompson has great size and rebounded well as a rookie. He's not a monster, but as he develops can certainly be a presence at the four and also play some minutes at center.
Impact Potential: Moderate. Coming off his rookie year, it's clear that Thompson is a quality young player, but it's not clear how much better he will get. At minimum he'll be a good third big on a team, but he could well become a high-level starter. I think I'd rather role the dice on his size and youth heading into the second year of his rookie deal than spend big on David Lee or Paul Millsap
Availability: Moderate. Sacramento has made no noises about being willing to deal Thompson. But how much do they want Ricky Rubio? And how willing are the Grizzlies to play hardball?

6cfb/1245207298-jefferson.jpg9. Al Jefferson
Rebounding/Physicality: Moderate. Jefferson isn't exactly Kevin Garnett or Tim Duncan on the defensive end, but has the size to hold his own on the block against pretty much anybody, is a decent shotblocker, and a very good rebounder.
Impact Potential: High. A healthy Jefferson is one of the most talented post scorers in the league and is still only 24. A 20-10 machine.
Availability: Low-to-Moderate. There's been talk of the Wolves trying to move up, but the focus has been more on Kevin Love than Jefferson as a trade commodity. Jefferson's situation is complicated by his ACL injury late last season. Would a team really trade for him before he's proven he's made it all the way back? Despite the rapidly improving success rate of players dealing with that injury, probably not. A healthy Jefferson is worth his considerable contract, but it's probably too much money to risk on a player coming off a major injury. One thing I do know — Chris Wallace was involved in the scouting and drafting of Jefferson in Boston and is a big fan. I think he'll come back fine and am tempted to rank him as high as third.

b058/1245207612-jsmoove.jpg10. Josh Smith
Rebounding/Physicality: Moderate. A tweener at 6'9", 240, Smith is more of an open-court terror than a low-post banger and his rebound rate of 12.1 may have been a career low, but even his career best (14.1) is lower than Darrell Arthur's rookie rate (14.5). Smith is one the league's top shot-blockers, however and can be more of an Andrei Kirilenko-like defensive force.
Impact Potential: High. Putting Smith at the "4" requires a team to commit to an uptempo style to take advantage of the mismatch he provides, but if used correctly he's an all-star caliber talent who can still get better at only 23. The contract Smith signed with the Grizzlies last year and that was subsequently matched by the Hawks is generous, but not outrageous, paying Smith $10.8 million next season with incremental raises.
Availability: High in general, Moderate for the Grizzlies. ESPN.com's Chad Ford lead with Smith's availability in a recent column, though he didn't speculate on potential destinations. The Grizzlies have certainly demonstrated an interest in Smith, but the deal they negotiated last summer includes $7.2 million trade kicker that the Grizzlies are unlikely to want to pay. The offer sheet last summer would also prevent the Grizzlies from dealing for Smith until later in the summer.

b9df/1245207763-millsap.jpg11. Paul Millsap
Rebounding/Physicality: Moderate. Millsap would almost certainly upgrade the Grizzlies rebounding and is strong and tenacious enough to hold is own defensively, but he's too small (6'8") to really be a great post defender.
Impact Potential:: Moderate. I don’t see Millsap ever appearing in an all-star game, but I do think he can be a quality starter and a significant upgrade for the Griz. Only 24.
Availability: Moderate. Millsap will be a free agent and his availability may depend in large part on Boozer's plans. If Boozer opts out, the Jazz are likely to resign Millsap. If Boozer doesn't opt out, Millsap could be gettable.

effa/1245208169-lee.jpg12. David Lee
Rebounding/Physicality: Moderate. Lee is not much of a shotblocker or post defender, but is a high-energy guy and a legit big-time rebounder.
Impact Potential: Moderate. Lee's per-game averages may have been a little inflated in Mike D'Antoni's system, but his rebounding and ability to finish around the rim is legit. He's 26, is big enough to play spot minutes at center, and would be a good fit.
Availability: High. Lee is a restricted free agent on a Knicks team looking to maximize cap space in 2010. A big offer could pry him loose or at least get the Knicks to engage in a sign-and-trade.

19ef/1245208287-arandolph.jpg13. Anthony Randolph
Rebounding/Physicality: Moderate. Randolph might be a stick figure at 6'10", 210, but he was a high-level rebounder and shot blocker in limited minutes as a rookie. He'll need to get a lot stronger to be able to defend the post, but he's got the potential to be a 10-rebound, 2-block guy sooner rather than later.
Impact Potential: Moderate-to-High. Randolph is only 19, is still developing physically, and there have been questions about his focus and overall demeanor, so it's impossible to say where his career is heading. But I think Randolph's potential is huge — he can board and block like a power forward and handle the ball and run the floor like a skilled small forward. I'd love to get him.
Availability: Moderate. It's hard to say, really. Randolph and Brandon Wright are so similar that you suspect one could be moved, and Randolph spent some time in Don Nelson's doghouse last season. There are no substantial rumors concerning Randolph right now, but he certainly doesn't seem to be untouchable.

4882/1245208482-west.jpg14. David West
Rebounding/Physicality: Low-to-Moderate. West has become a big name in recent years, but has been a spotty rebounder and at 6'9", 240 is not really a huge defensive presence.
Impact Potential: Moderate. What West can do is score and bring general toughness. He's worked great with Chris Paul in New Orleans, especially as a pick-and-pop threat, and could similarly help out Mike Conley and O.J. Mayo. At 28, he's probably at the upper end of the age scale the Grizzlies would be looking at.
Availability: Moderate. New Orleans has said West isn't available, but the reality is that they're facing a huge, perhaps unsustainable luxury tax hit next season with Chris Paul's extension kicking in. They don't want to move Paul and probably can't move Tyson Chandler or Peja Stojakovic. Moving West is probably their only chance to get under the tax next season, especially if they can pair him with another expendable contract (James Posey/Morris Peterson/Rasual Butler). And the Grizzlies are one of the few teams that can make that happen.

59e5/1245208755-hill.jpg15. Jordan Hill
Rebounding/Physicality:Moderate. Hill was a productive rebounder at the college level and measured out bigger than I expected at the Chicago camp, but doesn't look like a dominant pro defender and is obviously untested at the NBA level.
Impact Potential: Low-to-Moderate. An athletic energy guy, Hill is probably more likely to be the next Chris Wilcox than the next Amare Stoudemire, but until proven otherwise there's at least the chance for something significant here.
Availability: High. Obviously the Grizzlies can have him at #2 if they wanted, but he's also likely to be on the board for potential trades down to #4 and #6.

bfb9/1245208989-wright.jpg16. Brandon Wright
Rebounding/Physicality: Low. Two years older than teammate Anthony Randolph, Wright is built like his teammate but doesn't have the raw athleticism and or the same potential as a rebounder and a shotblocker.
Impact Potential Low-to-moderate. Wright has a bigger frame and much more all-around upside than the Grizzlies' incumbents at the four, but is a bit of a gamble.
Availability: Moderate. See the Anthony Randolph entry above.


cbff/1245209141-thomas.jpg17. Tyrus Thomas
Rebounding/Physicality: Moderate. A tweener forward, Thomas is, so far, a comparable rebounder to what the Grizzlies already have at the position and isn't likely to be able to guard the better true power forwards. He is a high-level shotblocker, though.
Impact Potential: Moderate. Thomas is an elite athlete, is only 22 years old, and finally made some strides in his third season. But he's been an erratic figure on and off the court and I question how much better he's really going to get.
Availability: Low-to-Moderate. There have been scattered reports that the Bulls might be shopping Thomas, but I suspect Kirk Hinrich is the more likely Bull to move. I don’t think Thomas is a great fit for the Grizzlies anyway.

8835/1245209256-vare.jpg18. Anderson Varejao
Rebounding/Physicality: Moderate-to-High. Varejao is an energetic player on both ends of the floor. He's not a dominant rebounder, but is better than anyone on the current Grizzlies roster. He's not much of a shot-blocker but is a good post defender who can handle both frontcourt spots.
Impact Potential: Low-to-moderate. At age 26, Varejao should be able to maintain his current level of play for several more seasons, but seems to have plateaued as secondary player. He's a great third cog in a big-man rotation, but an average-at-best starter.
Availability: Moderate. Varejao has a player option that he's expected to exercise. The Cavs are over the luxury tax but have not been bashful about spending as long as Lebron James is around. I suspect that paying Varejao enough to pry him from Cleveland would be paying him too much.

268f/1245209413-villanueva.jpg19. Charlie Villanueva
Rebounding/Physicality: Low. Villanueva is a big guy but is a softer, more perimeter-oriented forward. He was comparable to Arthur on the boards last season, but will probably be worse going forward. And he offers even less as a defender.
Impact Potential: Moderate. Despite his deficiencies, Villanueva is a talent. He's a 6'11" scorer who can shoot and handle the ball and has been a consistent producer. He's still only 24.
Availability: High. Villanueva is a restricted free agent and the Bucks don't have much money to spend. If they end up going big in the draft (say, if Jordan Hill slips), then Villanueva is almost surely changing teams this summer.

775e/1245209498-speights.jpg20. Marreese Speights
Rebounding/Physicality: Moderate. Speights' rebounding was just okay last year as a rookie, but he certainly has the size and talent to be a factor.
Impact Potential: Moderate-to-High. After averaging 16 minutes a game as a rookie, Speights' future is very much up in the air. But he was very good per-minute. There were red flags surrounding Speights coming out of Florida, but he's got the raw talent to develop into a quality starting power forward.
Availability: Low. Speights can presumably be had for the right deal, but I doubt the Sixers are eager to move him, especially given the uncertainty around Brand.

Also under consideration: Luis Scola, Drew Gooden, Zach Randolph, Elton Brand, Carl Landry, Chris Wilcox, Glen Davis.

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Great post Chris. I really want to see B-Easy in Beale Street Blue. I also think a Bosh/#2/Beasley deal would be a win-win-win trade and I really hope it comes up in trade talks before draft day.

Posted by I Am Awesome-O on June 16, 2009 at 11:01 PM | Report this comment

Thanks for the detail. This is great, but how can you prefer Jason Thompson over Al Jefferson and Josh Smith.

Or were you just trolling?

Posted by davidlovesthegrizzlies on June 16, 2009 at 11:48 PM | Report this comment

Chris, thanks so much for all the time and effort you put into this article. I really appreciate it. It is a great overview of what is available.

Posted by mogroupleader on June 16, 2009 at 11:59 PM | Report this comment

Jefferson has an enormous contract and hasn't played yet since suffering a major injury. I wrote in the comments that I'm tempted to put him third since I believe in his ability to make a full return, but can you really risk that investment before he proves it?

As for Smith, it's a combination of contract, knucklehead issues, and him not being the kind of defensive/rebounding presence that's ideal.

I think Thompson's length, upside, rookie production, and very affordable contract make him a more attractive option all-around, but it was a tough call and certainly debatable.

Posted by Chris Herrington on June 17, 2009 at 12:00 AM | Report this comment

Fair enough. I would take my chances with Jefferson over Thompson for sure. The Grizzlies have to take some chances to get someone who can be a star, and I think Jefferson's likelihood of coming back as a star is better than Thompson's likelihood of developing into one.

I will roll the dice with you on Thompson over David Lee.

I don't understand why Chad Ford and others keep saying that Gasol is a 4 and would pair nicely with Thabeet. It doesn't make sense to me to have two big slow guys who can't shoot from outside or dominate offensively inside, but maybe I'm missing something.

Posted by davidlovesthegrizzlies on June 17, 2009 at 12:25 AM | Report this comment

Chris - I'd list Scola (who is probably not attainable) and Glen Davis above many of who you listed.

Posted by GrizzledGrizzFan on June 17, 2009 at 7:38 AM | Report this comment

Scola is already 29 and will be a free agent after next season. On talent, he would be on the list, but those factors knock him down. Also, I don't see any viable deal for #2 to Houston.

I think Glen Davis is overrated based on his playoff performances. He's a nice backup who can knock down a shot, but anyone who pays him to be a starter next season is going to be disappointed. And, despite his size (um, girth) he's not much of a factor on the boards or defending the post.

Posted by Chris Herrington on June 17, 2009 at 9:06 AM | Report this comment

Great post Chris. Always enjoy your stuff, even if much of it is just conjecture because it doesn't seem like really anyone can get a good grip on what the Grizz have in mind. They could hit a homerun, but judging from history, it is more likely they will stand pat with their draft picks and try to media-spin that and a VERY minor free agent signing into positive progress towards the 3-year plan. Yawn. It's disgusting.

Posted by GCmemphis on June 17, 2009 at 9:45 AM | Report this comment

Great post and excellently researched. I am intrigued by the possibility of getting Kevin Love with the #2 pick. If Love was in this draft I think he would be competing with Griffin for the #1 spot. Plus I like Love better than other PF options available to the Griz in this draft. If Minny would also throw in the #28 that would be a bonus. The Griz got the best of Minny last year can they make it 2 in a row?

Posted by huckleberry on June 17, 2009 at 9:58 AM | Report this comment

Nice article Chris. I only have one problem with it. If Toronto was actually willing to give up Bosh for the #2 pick or Rudy, why would Miami need to be involved at all? The Grizz should trade the pick or Rudy to Toronto for Bosh, not as part of a 3-way deal to get Beasley. Bosh is a All-Star PF and member of the Olympic Gold Medal team. Beasley is an interested project who could develop into a solid player. Taking Beasley over Bosh at this point in their careers is crazy. Maybe you suggested that trade scenario because you don't believe Bosh would willingly be traded to the Grizz, but would welcome playing beside Wade in Miami? If that is the case, then it is understandable.

Posted by Grizzly_Adam on June 17, 2009 at 10:22 AM | Report this comment

I would expect the Love rumor to pick up a little speed now that McHale will not be back. Good for Memphis maybe the winds of good fortune will blow past here for once.

Posted by leglockfan on June 17, 2009 at 10:30 AM | Report this comment
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Great article, Chris; my employers are probably going to block you if I spend any more time on your site... Golden State looks set to consider deals. I wonder if Monta Ellis as part of three-guard set, along with Anthony Randolph, could be had for the #2 and some change (maybe Hak--who is Don Nelson's kind of player; Darko, etc.)?

Posted by Jason E. Memphis on June 17, 2009 at 10:32 AM | Report this comment

Bosh -- yes. He'll be a free agent next summer and I don't think he would agree to an extension as part of a trade to Memphis. I think Miami would not fear losing him, so that trade would seem to make some sense for all teams. Also, the Grizzlies' cap space can help faciliiate the deal.

Posted by Chris Herrington on June 17, 2009 at 11:07 AM | Report this comment

great read. its nice to finally get some solid info on the griz draft.

Posted by griger on June 17, 2009 at 11:42 AM | Report this comment

Big baby is about to make 300% of what he's worth. I'm surprised that David West isn't higher. I took a look at his rebounding numbers and they are a little lower than I thought, and I know he's only an all star because of CP3, but his contract is so good, he could fall back to 75% of his production now, and he would still be worth it. I would have him ahead of millsap and lee, just bc his contract is so reasonable, and declines every year. And wouldnt it be nice to pair him with posey, with only giving up darko, buckner and the lakers pick next year?

Posted by Matt H on June 17, 2009 at 2:32 PM | Report this comment
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CH,
Is this your way of politely saying "heck no" to DaJuan Blair and his (supposedly) achy-breaky knees?

Posted by JBGrizz on June 17, 2009 at 2:53 PM | Report this comment

Blair -- partly the knees, partly that I suspect he'll fall in a draft range where the Grizzlies are unlikely to pick, but mostly because I doubt he'd play ahead of Arthur or Warrick immediately, though maybe you could say the same for Speights.

On West -- I do acknowledge this seems too low. It's a combination of under-recognized limitations re: defense/rebounding, his age, and my man-crush on Anthony Randolph.

Related note: At the free-agent camp this morning, I spotted Chris Wallace perusing this very story as part of the team's daily clips package. I made a crack about him picking up some good ideas here and he smirked and said something like, "Should we give you phone numbers so you can call these guys too?" I volunteered for that but given how his cell phone seemed surgically implanted in his ear all day, I think Wallace has the phone duty on lock.

Posted by Chris Herrington on June 17, 2009 at 4:01 PM | Report this comment

Can Randolph play any time at the 3? I had visions of a possible (though highly unlikely) frontcourt rotation of gasol, griffin, and randolph, where we could go small with griffin and randolph at 5 and 4, or go super big and slide randolph over to the 3. I mean, THATS a frontcourt.

Posted by Matt H on June 17, 2009 at 4:27 PM | Report this comment

i think villaneuva could be the cheap answer right now. i also like the jason thompson possibility. depsite your man crush i dont think randolph is the answer.

Posted by sol graves on June 17, 2009 at 6:50 PM | Report this comment

This list is SERIOUSLY FLAWED in terms of ranking. David West at 14 and Kevin Love at 7? dude, seriously? you must be joking!

Posted by truth on June 18, 2009 at 5:36 AM | Report this comment

My list looks like this:

1. Amare
2. David West
3. Griffen
4. Horford
5. Milsap
6. Boozer
7. Beasley
8. Jefferson
9. Okafor
10. Lee
11. Smith
12. Thompson

Posted by truth on June 18, 2009 at 5:42 AM | Report this comment

Re: Love and West -- Love is 8 years younger, already a better rebounder, has a cheaper and longer contract.

This isn't just a ranking of who the best players are today but a (rough) ranking of who I think would be the best fit for the Grizzlies, all factors considered.

Posted by Chris Herrington on June 18, 2009 at 7:13 AM | Report this comment

I know I said West should be higher, but not that high. He will be 29 next year, and even though he's averaging just over 20 ppg, his usage rate is over 25%, and he gets 4-6 ppg just by playing next to chris paul.

Furthermore, he still has never averaged over 9 rebounds a game.

Last year, Kevin Love averaged 9.1 rebounds, as a ROOKIE. Per 36 minutes, he averaged 12.6 compared to west who averaged only 7.8 per 36 minutes.

Also, per 36 minutes, Love scored 15.8 ppg, way above what West averaged as a rookie (he didn't surpass 15.8 ppg/36 minutes until he was 25).

Finally, West makes over twice as much as Love, and his contract is shorter. There is no way he belongs ahead of love, or Griffin, or al jefferson. There just isn't.

Posted by Matt H on June 18, 2009 at 8:30 AM | Report this comment

I think one thing to consider is how strong the 2010 class is with big men. It is still year one of the 3YP, no need to hurry things up and sacrifice assets.

Posted by MemphisX on June 18, 2009 at 1:13 PM | Report this comment

This team has won 24, 22, and 22 games over the past three seasons. I agree you always need to keep your eye on the big picture, but this team absolutely needs to make a substantial improvement next season.

As near as I can tell, the only person connected with the team who has ever used the dreaded term "three-year plan" is Michael Heisley and no-one seems to be quite sure when this so-called "3YP" started.

Posted by Chris Herrington on June 18, 2009 at 2:15 PM | Report this comment

Chris, it looks like the Grizzlies' options for addressing their need for a power forward through free agency this summer are pretty dismal. Of the players you have listed, only Carlos Boozer, Paul Millsap, David Lee, Anderson Varejao and Charlie Villanueva will even be free agents this summer, and of those, either Millsap or Boozer will be off the table. And, in your words, these guys are pretty much moderate-to-low-impact players for whom we would likely have to overpay.

How does this inform what the Grizzlies will do with the #2? It's strange to me that this hasn't been mentioned more in rumors surrounding the Grizzlies and in things coming out of the front office. I would think it would have a significant impact on whatever they want to do, because if the Grizzlies don't address their gaping hole at power forward, no matter how well the "young core" plays, this next season will essentially be a wash.

For this reason, the Kevin Love and Jason Thompson rumors are particularly interesting. Would the Grizzlies be willing to sweeten one of those deals to make it happen, much like they did last summer by including Mike Miller to get Mayo? Any player on the Grizzlies bench, including Arthur, I would think, would be expendable. Or am I off here?

Posted by Herodotus on June 18, 2009 at 7:30 PM | Report this comment
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In his radio interview today, Heisley sounded dead certain that (1) he was the most generous owner in the NBA and that (2) the 3YP is just now going into its second year. That equals two more years of hell, which will be spent developing Hasheem Thabeet. On the positive side, FedEx Forum will be so quiet, Hollins won't even have to raise his voice to coach Hasheem while he's on the court.

Posted by Jason E. Memphis on June 18, 2009 at 9:23 PM | Report this comment

I just don't see the difference between 28...32..36 wins except for lottery odds. The general public is not going to start coming to see a 35 win Grizz team next season either. Until they get "hyped" enough the general public will just assume they will suck and not pay attention.

Take time to properly build the team for long term success. That means getting the best top shelf talent. NBA teams should be built from the top down. So until we have a player that proves to be a quality player, keep shooting for the star player.

Posted by MemphisX on June 19, 2009 at 8:26 AM | Report this comment

Chris H.-

Use your eyes man. David West is a DOMINANT interior presence and an ALL-STAR just hitting his prime. He is also huge in stature and causes double teams and still averages over 20pts per game.

He also possesses what this team needs most - TOUGHNESS.

Kevin Love is a role player. Which is one reason, why his team, even with Al Jefferson carrying the load and making it easier for Love, didn't sniff the playoffs.

Also, Love doesn't fit on this team. We already have Gasol, Haddadi, Darko. Do we really need another average athlete in the paint? I would look to add some toughness, leadership, size, and athleticism.

David West is Tim Duncan like. Kevin love is Brad Miller like.

Posted by truth on June 19, 2009 at 10:07 AM | Report this comment

Someone might want to call David West, and let him know that he is Tim Duncan like. I'm not sure if he got the memo.

Posted by Matt H on June 19, 2009 at 12:02 PM | Report this comment

Amare would be a great pick-up who would sell tickets and get notoriety immediately. He's an explosive athlete who would help make it FUN to go to games.
As far as his lack of defense, no one in the NBA plays defense until the fourth quarter or the playoffs anyway. Since we're not competing for a title here, we might as well have some fun with a legitimate star, something we really haven't had here. I really think Memphians would love Amare in the same way we really dug Joey Dorsey.
Also, we might finally get some ESPN and national media love.

Posted by TennesseeDrew on June 19, 2009 at 1:39 PM | Report this comment

Ok.... Tim Duncan-Lite

Posted by truth on June 19, 2009 at 1:44 PM | Report this comment

LEBRON IS THE BEST!!!!!GO IDOL GO!!!!!!

Posted by John Paolo Mesa on June 20, 2009 at 12:17 AM | Report this comment

Ricky Rubio - 2009 Draft
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