Sunday, June 7, 2009
The New Politics of Dining Out
Posted by Bruce VanWyngarden on Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 10:05 AM
Now that the Tennessee legislature has begun the great transformation of our state into a perpetually armed camp, it's time to ponder some of the more interesting ramifications of their zealotry. Restaurants in this state are now, of course, faced with a choice: whether or not to allow legally armed customers onto their premises. Writer Chris Davis interviewed a number of bar/restaurant owners for the Flyer's recent cover story and discovered that there is no overwhelming consensus as to what most owners are going to do.
The choice is not a simple one. Restaurant/bar owners must consider several factors in making their decision, including insurance liability, what their customers might prefer, personal politics, the safety of their employees, etc. But the bottom line for most will be, well, the bottom line. When new, more restrictive smoking regulations were passed, restaurants had to figure out which option brought in more money — catering strictly to an over-21, smoking crowd or staying family friendly. Now proprietors must figure out what most of their customers will prefer — an armed or unarmed establishment — and act accordingly.
Similar choices will face consumers. Let's say you're a gun-totin' smoker. You have to find a joint that allows both, or you'll have to leave either your cigarettes or your gun in the car, where they're sure to be stolen (at least, according to carry permit holders). People on both sides of the issue are saying they won't patronize establishments that favor the other side. As for the often-cited Applebee's, I don't eat there anyway, but I wouldn't worry much one way or the other during dinner hour at legitimate restaurants. Bars are the real issue for me. For the record, any late-night bar that allows guns won't get my business.
Here's an idea: Why not let bar and restaurants establish "Guns Allowed" and "No Guns Allowed" areas, just like they used to do with smoking? That way we'd at least know where the nuts are sitting.
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I'd like a booth in the smoking gun section please.
jeff, where do i send the bill for my new monitor?
As an ex-bartender who saw a gun in the parking lot more than once, I won't be going to a gun allowing bar either. It was scary enough watching stuff happen outside when we were inside behind locked doors.
Ah Tennessee---where you can drink shooters and shoot drinkers. If any eating or drinking establishment I get ready to enter does NOT have one of those "no guns allowed" signs, I plan to move it on down the road. This state is one effed up motherf*%$ing place to ever allow this kind of crap, but now that the NRA owns it, it'll be a veritable shooting gallery. Only a crimson deep redneck loving FOX News Nation Idiot America would think this is somehow a good idea.
I believe that the restaurant owners are going to find that the people who will not patronize their place of business because they allow guns will far outnumber the ones who insist they need a gun to go out to eat.
I haven't found anyone yet who thinks this was a good idea.
So just out of curiosity, how exactly are these establishments going to stop people _without_ carry permits from bringing guns in illegally, as they've been doing all along? Hire enough extra armed staff to search each and every patron?
Or just stick a sign in the corner, and keep on doing business as usual?
So all gun owners, carriers are nuts. Nice.
So we know were you stand on self defense.
BTW as far as anyone cares, this has been the law in 37 others states for a long time, and we hear about bar shootings ALL the time don't we.
amax-- the assumption is that you can haul your guns into bars in 37 other states, no prob. SOmething's lost in the details regarding how the states may have distinguished between bars & restaurants and the degree to which bar & restaurant owners are allowed to choose. I'm not disagreeing with you, only saying that the 37x=y formula is flawed math.
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