Once again I am not at all surprised but very happy that Harvard leads the way in education research, especially in science. This is the very proof that MCS has no idea how to help teachers improve. Notice there is pre-tests, post-tests and a predictive element. This is how we improve our teachers and we improve the learning fin the classroom.
No, deep down I think the truth is that you have made no case, all this was just more of your racist bullshit.
Prove me wrong, friend.
Show me those links I asked for, will you?
The ones where all these programs were denied to blacks and only given to them because lawsuits were filed under Equal Opportunity provisions of the Constitution. That is what you wrote, lets see it.
ArlingtonPop, Diogenes323 and GroveRev84
You are still trying to dodge the truth, however, deep down inside, you know the story. It is like Grove wrote, my grandfather lost everything in the great depression, but he worked hard and lifted himself up. Well, the opposite of that is the poor grandfather had nothing to lose in the first place, he worked hard though but was denied a decent job with decent pay because of his color so he really couldn't work himself up and into a better position. We all know that Grove's grandfather was given first choice for a decent job at decent pay than the black grandfather.
Some more relevant links on welfare:
Well, this is what OTP said, word for word. What part of the linked information do you think supports his position?
"Food stamps were not given to target poor, black people that were systematically deprived of an equal opportunity to make a decent living. Food stamps were the result of a scheme to save the agricultural system and to keep prices of food low so as not to further impoverish the poor rural whites, particularly in LBJ's home state and former district in Texas. Yes, the target of those programs were directly tied to them and the rural whites that populated Appalachia. But, an unintended consequence of those actions had a calming effect on the riots of the early 60's by having a calming effect on the inner city poor blacks. Had it not been for the food stamp program, many farmers, especially white, family, small farms would have went out of business, thus creating a shortage of staples caused an increase in the price of food all over the U. S. with great damage been done to poor whites from impoverished areas, especially in the south. "
"All of those programs was put into place to help poor whites. Via the equal protection clause of the constitution, those programs, some challenged successfully in courts, had to be given to blacks also, but, not without a fight."
Now the story changes.
Food stamps were not a really ascheme to save the agricultural system. No,no. Neither was the true, racist purpose to keep food prices low for whites, particularly in LBJ's home district. No longer a conspiracy to keep white family farms in business. (Which is remarkable, since these are surplus foods. Does seem like it would have been better for those farmers to just cut back on production and raise prices, and profits, that way. Since staples are by nature, commodities and thus very sensitive to supply and demand. But of course that would not fit the ACORN narrative of racial injustice.)
Now, we are presented with the theory that food stamps were used by Kennedy to get votes in West Virginia, a state he needed to carry in the Presidential eletion of 1960. Which very well may have been true.
But it was nevertheless still racist, because:
1. West Virgina had a lot of poor people.
2. A lot of those poor people were coal miners.
3. Most of those coal miners were white. "a white bunch", he says.
QED, Kennedys' motivation was racist besides being self serving.
The Food Stamp program was not put into place to target all poor people, you understand. No, the program was put into place only for WHITE people. Further, the ACORN assertion is that the Food stamp program was only made available to blacks because they went into court and, under the Equal Protection clause, made the federal government extend it to blacks!
That's OTP's position isn't it?
He offers no proof for his statements, only racist spin, Like I said.
GEt over yourself OTP.
Odds are once in a blue moon you will get it right. But your obsession with race is rather pitiful at this point.
Here's a math lesson that I hope will help.
There are approximately 315 million people in this country. Round number so you won't get confused.
220M are white
54M are black
41M are something else.
10% of the whites live in poverty. That's 22M
27% of the blacks live in poverty. That's 14M
27% of the other live in poverty. That's 11M
Almost 50M people live in poverty. So we are talking almost twice as many whites as blacks live in poverty. Yes, I get percentages, but by raw numbers, you and the blacks don't have a lock on poverty.
If you live two streets from the municipal limits of germantown, you have come a long way from poverty. Yet my students, both black and white, are in it everyday. I could care less about the color of their skin. I care about giving enough of what I can to help them on their journey to a place similar to yours. That's my job, to inspire, encourage, and direct them to a better life than what they have.
Stop looking behind you and invest in the future of the rest. Your time is almost over.
I really don't care to continue the argument other than to say that the only certainty is that those who are waiting for someone else (the government or anyone else) to get them out of poverty isn't going to make it.
Regardless of the situation or the history, individuals still have to seek a way up the social ladder for themselves. That fact will never change.
Your link to the article on housing subsidies does not work to lead one to any useful information. Instead, it goes to a wiki page which states, in part, that:
"Wikipedia does not have an article with this exact name. Please search for Section 8 (housing in Wikipedia to check for alternative titles or spellings."
I'm sure you meant to post a different link and I'm most interested in reading what you intended to post. I have to agree with OTP, however, that the link you posted regarding the Food Stamp program seems to reinforce what OTP originally stated.
But he'd fit right in down here in the south Senor, this, the south, Tennessee and Memphis, is the haven of fat folks.
Your links don't work, as usual.
I am always ready to jump on the bandwagon of truth. You might try it sometime instead of constantly trying to put a racist spin on everything.
The truth about that criminal organization you served really hurts, huh?
BTW, there are some links I am REALLY interested in seeing. Those are the ones that back up your story about all the government free goodies programs being denied blacks, and only being extended to minorities once lawsuits were filed. I need to see some documentation to butress your position.
Diogenes and ArlingtonPop
Ap, you are quick to jump on some-ones bandwagon when you think you got me. Well, Diogenes sold you a bill of goods because what was referenced did nothing to refute what I said.
The history of food stamps:
Myths about food stamps:
This is the most important in relation to what I wrote. Jfk, while running for the democratic presidential primary nomination was in a very tight battle. West Virginia was a key battleground( the key to the nomination). On a visit to WVA, Jfk said he was horrified by the poverty, misery, hunger, lack of decent housing by the coal miners ( now that is a very white bunch). He proclaimed that if given the nomination and elected, he would revive the food stamp and housing programs to give relief to those poor whites.
http://www.livingstoryfarm.org/farming in the 50s/money_09.html
The Food Stamp Program is Revised in the 60s.
The government phones was first enacted in 1996. It was passed, as I said, to help people that lived in isolated rural areas of America. All changes to that program, even up to today, were not enacted by Obama.
As you can see, AP, I have covered these subjects, not with inflamed statements about ACORN, but with facts from creditable sources. Name-calling and misconstruing the facts only makes the one doing it look more stupid than they seem.
Just excellent as usual.
Love to see all the conspiracy theorists spring up like weeds (no pun intended) when a sleazy operation gets shuttered.
The facts of the matter are that law enforcement officials from several different agencies witnessed the criminal behaviors taking place at this club numerous times.
It's common knowledge Beale Street has been taken over by thugz and there is very little "burb" money being spent there. People who wish to avoid thugz and the real potential for trouble do not have Beale on their path. I suspect most tourists visit once.
Thanks for posting the unvarnished truth.
What I know you appreciate is that what you are hearing from OTP is nothing more than the spin that used to be part of the ACORN sales pitch for funding. I have heard them say similar things for 30 years.
Or, in other words, you are hearing what a criminal organization, an organization now totally discredited and de-funded, used to motivate their organizers. OTP was one of those ACORN organizers, if you remember.
As we have seen the ever growing black upper and middle classes class step forward and take their rightful place in American society, it becomes more and more evident that that pitch was always just a pack of lies.
How misguided you are in the framework of a democratic republic.
First there is the Federal Constitution and the branches of government. Second there is the State of Tennessee and it's constitution, and,of course, it's three branches of government. The supremacy clause of the federal constitution gives the federals the right to override all state decision when it come to the guaranteed rights of its' citizens.
Sure, you, the suburbanites want msds. The state passed a law giving you that option. Well, one or a group of citizens alleges that those laws are unconstitutional, violating the 14th amendment. All done legally and according to both constitutions, the state and federal.
Now, how is filing a lawsuit against that law bullying? Please explain that to us? Why was not the challenging of the Affordable Healthcare Acts in court by the gop not considered bullying? What it seems to me you are saying is that when your side want something, it should automatically be done, however, when our side want something, it is ok for your side to challenge. Does that really sound right to you?
As an aside, I will also answer your question on who when it came to outsourcing services by the unified school board. When I said you, I meant that most of the pressure was coming from the suburban side. You hinted, no threatened, that if these cuts were not made, the budget would not be approved and thus, causing a delay in the merger. The BOE had no choice but to cave because without that outsourcing, the tax rate would have had to be increased by over 10%. In that scenario, it would have taken a 2/3 vote of the county commission to pass. There was not that many votes for that because the suburban commissioners would have voted no in a bloc. The county commissioners knew that with the Memphis majority, if they kept the tax increase below 10%, they had enough votes to pass it. So, it was your side, suburbia, that was bullying the county commission; you weren't in a mood to cooperate and/or compromise.
See how easy the truth is? Why don't you try being truthful and forthcoming also?
Well we finally know where the nut jobs go for their weekend hate weekends. Now this is where the government should make sure these "people" don't have handgun carry permits or possession of guns since they are truly mentally unstable.
Wrong again. If you care to really look at the TRUTH on the free phones look here: http://transition.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Common_C… It's it called the Lifeline Program.
The REAL story of The Food Stamp Program for the people looking for the truth and not someones fantasy. http://www.fns.usda.gov/snap/rules/Legisla…
Again on the Federal Housing Subsidies or Section 8 Housing. Housing Act of 1937 (42 U.S.C. § 1437f) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_8_(ho…)
The top 2 links are government links and the Wiki link has the breakdown of the Housing Act.
You said, "It is amazing that you, as an educated American, just don't know anything about the social history of this country." speaking to GroveReb84. It is not him but you. I believe you are surely more intelligent than some of your post.
Why in the world you continue to break everything down to race is beyond me. It is so easy to disprove you that it's pathetic. I guess the books that you are talking about are written by the Black Panthers. As I have asked and pleaded with you to post accurate links to your statements you refuse to on your lengthy posts. Why? It is so easy children do it.
@dj---- one thing about black folks....if you build it, they will come, lol. We don't have enough wealth to build individually, but will support things that are marketed towards us. If you notice that IHOP on Shelby Drive is always packed. Walmart didn't put that Walmart on Holmes Rd because they wanted another Walmart 3 miles from the one in Southaven. There is plenty of money in Whitehaven to sustain any business. If you pay attention when you drive through Whitehaven, there are not a lot of empty buildings in the area. No blight. May need a fresh coat of paint and modern decor, but no real blight like others areas are experienceing. Everything in North MS should be in Whitehaven. Mayor Davis and others in Southaven capitalized on our shortcomings. We just have to seize the moment and quit waiting on others to fix us when we can fix ourselves. Simple solutions. Everyone has to play nicely together and look at the bigger picture in order for development to occur in this community.
Just wondering, since all those programs were really put in place to help the whites, and the poor black folks were unable of get education and decent jobs, and all of that.....
How do you account for all those blacks who have succeeded in getting out of poverty?
How do you account for all the educated, successful black lawyers, doctors, educators, businessmen, civil servants? How do you account for the growing and prosperous black middle class? How do you account for a black President?
How do you account for the black underclass who will not help themselves out of poverty, despite all the resources available to help them? What do you propose to change their perception and start planning for the future?
Or does your social history of the country stop 50 years ago?
I suspect that is the case.
I truly wish whoever it is that owns/bottles/markets Willingham's sauces and rubs would consider opening a restaurant here. When it was on Brookhaven Circle, Willingham's was where I would always take guests for, in my opinion, the absolute best Memphis BBQ ribs. Bring back the W'ham!!
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