I've always said that if the city wanted to be petty, they would just plant some large, thick shrubs all around the statue. That, or they'd build a structure that goes over the statue, just covering it up.
At the very least, it would force the state to write a new law about clearances that between statues and other objects, which would probably force a lot of cities to spend money clearing the area around their statues.
If nothing else, it would be fun to watch the state react when the city of Memphis builds a large box type structure over top of the statue. Be petty. That's what I'm encouraging. Make it some good political theater for me.
@greg. Sorry to hear your google is broken.
This is one of thousands of links.
It does an effective job of covering the bases and support. I encourage you to read the whole thin
Fascinating points, but could somebody tell me just who this Forrest fellow was and just where is this Memphis you speak of?
Can somebody please tell me where I can find evidence that General Forrest was ever even in the Klan? I've looked and have found nothing. There's a court case were they federal government claimed he was a member but the government lost the case for lack of evidence. Forrest himself always maintained he was never a member. Forrest was also brought up on charges by the reconstruction government for providing money to black men to buy GUNS to protect themselves from lawlessness and he was known to support blacks advancing into an Intergrated society not to mention he participated in one of the first documented interracial kisses. But I haven't been able to find any documentation of actual klan membership. Can someone point me in the right direction?
I prefer that we keep the "grit and grind" third world appearance throughout the city therefore I am opposed to any "modern" looking buildings.
I keep hearing this "majority" of the city that wants this. Where are they? The majority of people in Memphis don't really give a crap one way or the other.
I personally think it's a ridiculous waste of money on the city's part. While the City Council have spent millions tying this matter up in court, the city has been falling apart around them. They are short hundreds of Firefighters and police, they are cutting the pay and benefits of those very men and women, cutting critical items from the city budget right and left, and for what? To desecrate the grave of an American Veteran (Public Law 85-425and Public Law 85-811)? To tear down a statue that hurts no one?
Let's not be fooled. Let's consider the real reason this has become an issue. The UT Medical Center desperately wants the land the park sits on to expand their campus. THAT is the reason Forrest Park is in the crosshairs, not some altruistic desire to "do good" by our corrupt City Council.
WAS... Heck he STILL IS, Pete. Still helping out where he can, putting himself out there, day after day, even when some people have nothing kind to say about him. One thing about people who leave a high profile office. They can retreat, and lay back (after all they have earned it) or they can go on doing their thing, but just in a different venue. AC isn't the kind of guy who lays back. I honestly admire both his attitude AND his fortitude.
LoveBC, What statue of a historic/notorious figure would you not want in your neighborhood?
Would you object to neighbors offering to move it for free ( I am sure we could sell tickets to citizens wanting to take a few swings of a sledge or some confederate necromancers from Bugtussle would gladly move it to their local 1st Baptist Church)
Would an accompanying statue of Forrest beating or raping a chained slave be divisive? You can't erase history.
About the major thing that turns me off about politics, and politicians, is so much effort and money is wasted on useless drama. Let's just look through the current Memphis Flyer issue. We have a protracted legal battle that is running up legal fees for politically connected lawyers to dig up the remains of Gen. Forrest. Surely there is at one issue in Memphis that is more important than removing the remains of a dead democrat.
Not to be outdone, the Beav wants to pass feel good legislation so the state can tell trans were they can and cannot take a wiz. Really.
I'm just a humble working guy trying to take care of a family. I am more interested in stopping the spread of crime, getting my son a good education, staying gainfully employed and keeping some money in the bank.
datGuy, the address on the senate web site is his legal office which is located in the historic Collierville town square. He lives somewhere in Germantown last I heard. I also live in the district.
Mate, Germantown Elementary, Middle and HS are Shelby County schools. Houston HS and middle and the other elementary schools are Germantown schools.
@BC, so trying to move a statue to where it's wanted, divides the city; but, keeping the "statue and remains of the Confederate Army general, slave trader, and Ku Klux Klan founding member" in place against the wishes of far and away most citizens keeps it together.
I imagine if I drink enough that would make sense, assuming I was passed out when the options were presented.
It's not really the revisionist vs traditionalist flip flop, its wasting tax dollars with feel good legislation and gives Alan Wade even more opportunities to pump up his legal fees by further driving a wedge between the citizens of Memphis.
For me, Raifords was Memphis. I talk about this guy and "Hollywood Raifords" ALL THE TIME. The dancing, the drums, the smoke machine, the pole, the 40s, Paula, getting a ride on their limo home... Memories for a lifetime. Thank you Raifords for making my Memphis days that much more memorable! You knew how to throw a party where everyone felt welcomed... you will be greatly missed...
Just melt it.
Leave the molten metal on the pedestal
At Funk, AC was a nice guy. He was right man after the last mayors adminstration ended with so much acrimony. Unfortunately, he also didn't keep up with needs to replace police officers. Heck, he didn't even have an academy training class one year while the losses were happening. That was a huge miss on his part. It was as if he wasn't even paying attention
OK ok, no more revisionist vs traditionalist flip flop, gives me a headache. Just sit back and wait, the trolls, are forming......
"..Im doing something for you Im not just doing something for the dance floor...."
That was the Traditionalists what dug him up, FUNK. The people who wanted to create an idea of Southern Tradition that had been repressed during Reconstruction. The Revisionists, on the other hand, are the ones who want to think about historic mores based upon what we now like to think of as 'enlightened' attitudes (and which will no doubt be considered as benighted by our descendants). Both are revising stuff left and right. But they have these names that historians like to use, so that's what they call 'em.
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