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Re: “Conservatives Have an Identity Problem. It's Called Their Identity

@Chris

I might be wrong here since all I know is what I read in the newspapers.

But I thought the reason Steve Bannon now works in the White House is that Donald Trump brought him there.

And the reason Trump could do that is because he carried the states of Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan.

And Trump carried those states because people who normally turn out and vote for Democrats either stayed home or voted for Trump.

So would it be more accurate to say that the reason Bannon is in the White House is not because of Republican votes but because of disaffected Democrats?

Posted by ArlingtonPop on 02/24/2017 at 10:19 PM

Re: “Conservatives Have an Identity Problem. It's Called Their Identity

" it was Republican votes." and the Democrat's' nominating process.

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Posted by CL Mullins on 02/24/2017 at 10:18 PM

Re: “Conservatives Have an Identity Problem. It's Called Their Identity

Oak Spencer calls himself an Identitarian. He and Milos are the naked Ids of the insergent white nationalist Right. I didn't make them Conservative celebrities or put them on the guest list at CPAC before disinviting them. It's not Democratic error that put Steve Bannon in the White House it was Republican votes.

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Posted by Chris Davis on 02/24/2017 at 10:00 PM

Re: “Your Weekly Danziger

More republican politicians have been arrested for sexual misconduct in bathrooms than have trans people.

hmmm

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Posted by datGuy on 02/24/2017 at 9:53 PM

Re: “Conservatives Have an Identity Problem. It's Called Their Identity

The most important thing is that he still had one hand free to grab the peanut.

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Posted by CL Mullins on 02/24/2017 at 9:42 PM

Re: “Your Weekly Danziger

Nightcrawler,
When you are making the bladder gladder who do you prefer to stand next to someone with a beard and newly formed penis, or someone with breasts who has to back up to a urinal in heels to accomplish the same task?
I'm not here to judge, just curious.

Posted by CL Mullins on 02/24/2017 at 9:40 PM

Re: “Conservatives Have an Identity Problem. It's Called Their Identity

Oak,

The democrat party long ago decided that the working class were, as a whole: white nationalist bigots with contempt for the poor that enjoy environmental destruction who like standard thousands of years old gender roles and also are all homophobic and xenophobia who like national security way too much and are, generally speaking dangerous and ignorant cigarette smokers that are all fat, lazy, and should stop liking those guns.

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Posted by Bric-a-Brac on 02/24/2017 at 8:39 PM

Re: “Your Weekly Danziger

U.S. Attorney General, Jeff Sessions, has more than enough on his federal law enforcement plate than to unnecessarily take on the title in the above silly and immature cartoon (emphasis on cartoon).

The issue at hand should be the sole responsibility of the states the restrooms are located in; not the federal government's responsibility. Fortunately, Sessions and his boss agree.

Considering less than one-half of one percent of the U.S. population is transgender, and that there's no federal law or executive order that covers this specific issue, this is much ado about nothing.

Well, unless one is a radical prog who at the drop of a hat will be hell-bent on nonsensical violence with bought-and-paid-for goons to orchestrate chaos simply because the pendulum of political power has swung way out of reach for at least the next eight years...and probably longer.

Posted by Nightcrawler on 02/24/2017 at 8:19 PM

Re: “Conservatives Have an Identity Problem. It's Called Their Identity

@barf - Has a ring to it... "petulant, dimwitted and gangrenous...". Me gusta!!

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Posted by OakTree on 02/24/2017 at 7:40 PM

Re: “Conservatives Have an Identity Problem. It's Called Their Identity

Oak has a point. I consider myself right of center on average and I am probably moderately to very conservative by many metrics. Yet I in no way relate to Trump and find he, several of his staff members and other regulars at the Oval Office (such as Breitbart) to be by a wide margin, the most petulant, dimwitted and gangrenous individuals to occupy the White House in my lifetime.

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Posted by barf on 02/24/2017 at 7:33 PM

Re: “Conservatives Have an Identity Problem. It's Called Their Identity

@GroveReb84, AP - You two are, of course, correct. Flinging the poo of invective will not solve the problem which the Democrats created for themselves. It's just that they like flinging the poo so much -SO MUCH- I don't think they can stop. It's almost like an addiction.

An old Zen saying, is that when the student is ready, the master appears.

What is meant by that, is that our imbalances make us wobble. Because they make us wobble, we have a hard time staying on track toward our goals. We wobble off track, and into the weeds, and that's how we get into trouble.

Now naturally, we don't like this. Because well, it's TROUBLE! And we think trouble is bad. But it's not. Trouble is good. It makes us work to figure out what went wrong. That's how it teaches us how to eliminate those imbalances, and fix ourselves.

So like they say, when the student is ready, the master appears.

The Democrats have found their Master. And his name is Trouble... err... Trump!
Ha!

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Posted by OakTree on 02/24/2017 at 7:32 PM

Re: “Conservatives Have an Identity Problem. It's Called Their Identity

@Chris - "Conservatives have an identity problem. It's called their identity."

This is perhaps the laziest non sequitur that I've seen you publish in a long time.

What, pray tell, is a 'conservative' exactly? Anybody who supports the Trumpster? Like tons of dues paying Union workers in the Rust Belt? Boy howdy, those racist, xenophobic liberal Teamsters and UAW workers sure do have a problem with their 'conservative identity', don't they? They can't be 'liberal' because they're racist and xenophobic, right?

Knocking down straw men seems to be your stock in trade lately, Chris.

And I ain't buying.

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Posted by OakTree on 02/24/2017 at 7:08 PM

Re: “Conservatives Have an Identity Problem. It's Called Their Identity

HA! As an example of me, myself and I, it seems very fitting in Trump's case.

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Posted by barf on 02/24/2017 at 6:58 PM

Re: “Conservatives Have an Identity Problem. It's Called Their Identity

APop,
The enemy of my enemy is my friend... this is getting confusing.

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Posted by CL Mullins on 02/24/2017 at 6:55 PM

Re: “Conservatives Have an Identity Problem. It's Called Their Identity

@barf

I think we can agree on everything you said.

Trump is his own worst enemy and is likely to continue to be so.

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Posted by ArlingtonPop on 02/24/2017 at 6:42 PM
Posted by barf on 02/24/2017 at 6:34 PM

Re: “Conservatives Have an Identity Problem. It's Called Their Identity

Apop-
I agree regarding the use of the popular vote to delegitimize Trump in part and thank you for using an applicable precedent as a comparison (Bush).

I would hope we can also agree that Trump is partially to blame for the extended shelf life of the topic. Had he made a statement or two in the immediate aftermath of the election regarding how elections work (electoral college vs popular vote) and moved on, this issue would be dead or at least on its deathbed. But man-oh-man, is he never the kind of person to move on as the uncontested winner. The need to project a very particular self-image (brand) continues to bite him in the ass. His need to be seen as a winner, which resulted in his claim that many millions committed voter fraud while he nor his staff have produced one single shred of evidence in support, has done more than any Democrat to keep the results of the popular vote fresh in the mind of the public and the media. If he is going to insist on discussing an issue, it makes it fair game for everyone else (including his opposition) to talk about it too. Those who are still talking about it 6 months after Trumps last mention of the topic will be the test for those who are interested in the issue and those who are using it as a club to beat over Trumps head. After all, if the aforementioned ass-hattery were acceptable, then all the Dems have to do is point to Trump's insistence on the birth certificate issue as an similar attempt to delegitimize Obama's presidency and thus karma is seen for the b!tch it can be.

Just to state the obvious, maybe that's what this election and Trump's term has done less to conceal than any other election cycle and president to date. It is not about doing the right thing for the country, your constituents or your party (no one has been that naive for a long time), but nor is it about being seen as right anymoreits about tit-for-tat, getting revenge for being brushed up against, not being praised enough (let alone derided), getting even and maybe cutting just a little bit deeper as a down payment for the next round. Its become so petty that it cant last foreverbut as a nation, I can say that I have faith we will deserve whatever we get in the mid and long term.

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Posted by barf on 02/24/2017 at 6:34 PM

Re: “Conservatives Have an Identity Problem. It's Called Their Identity

barf,
When I go to the zoo and see a man arguing with a masturbating monkey, which one am I more likely to remember.

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Posted by CL Mullins on 02/24/2017 at 6:23 PM

Re: “Conservatives Have an Identity Problem. It's Called Their Identity

Bric-
Duh, but the examples of past elections were not being used in the context you mentioned above and are still irrelevant to the earlier conversation. For example, Apop used a relevant example in context to a point being made in his last post instead of Quest's example of just blurting out a random historic piece of info with no point to be made whatsoever.

Speaking of which, don't answer for Quest. (Rude. Sad.) The question was directed to that author and that author alone. Otherwise I would have said Quest and Bric. I was trying to understand what that person was thinking, not what you were thinking about what they wroteunless this is just another example of one man, two names.
Also, thanks for agreeing with my point regarding redistricting. That's exactly what I said.

Posted by barf on 02/24/2017 at 6:16 PM

Re: “Conservatives Have an Identity Problem. It's Called Their Identity

@barf

I think that is a good question you directed my way.

I am happy to admit the obvious and trust you are happy to admit the obvious also.

To wit: Trump did not receive a majority of the popular votes cast in the 2016 presidential election. He did not get my vote, either. It just does not matter one way or the other, the election is not determined by popular vote. Or as one of our other Presidents accurately said (was it George Bush, maybe? ) " I may have won only 48% of the popular vote, but I won 100% of the presidency"

Could we also agree that the constant harping on the results of he popular vote is just an attempt to delegitimize Trump as President?

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Posted by ArlingtonPop on 02/24/2017 at 4:29 PM

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