@Grove - somehow you are missing that most of Trump's EO's have been made specifically to counteract Obama's EO's.
And all the bluster is overblown.
Gonna say it again. Obama, a president with whom I have many bones to pick, did nothing remotely similar. You can dislike the facts all day long. Doesn't change them. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-c…
I'm not sure how anyone who is so regularly unprepared only had to declare bankruptcy 7 times.
Hypocrisy and politics have always gone hand-in-hand. But to be sure, there is absolutely no parallel to the manner in which Trump is doing things. To defend the substance of the travel ban or anything else is to miss the point entirely. Lawful residents were deported over the weekend because Trump's EO was vague. It allowed for "word of mouth" to substitute for the substance, guidance, and instruction. Trump didn't run the EO by the agencies responsible for implementing it; he didn't run it by the agencies responsible for enforcing it; and he didn't run it by the justice department, ultimately tasked with defending it. What Trump did was stupid; how he did it is indefensible. This, however, is the new reality, and to look at Trump's presidency as a reality TV show, is to view it through the proper lens. He is no more fit to run the country than he was to run a business.....and yes, Trump sucked at running businesses.
Tired of, Check your memory or reread your history. The Obama-ites responded to and answered concerns from the media. I'm not saying they should have taken it for fact. But PLEASE, as a Trumpy, do not use the word elite as a pejorative. However, it can be used thus for the media in general, just not for a draft dodging prep schooled NYC corporate welfare queen who wouldn't piss on you if your hair was on fire.
Grove, love hearing your perspective as usual.
Bricabrac, because the Saudis are pigs, and not in a good way.
Next time a US President advises y'all to avoid foreign entanglements, maybe you'll pay attention.
Haven't had your daily constitutional? Check this out...
"When your favorite guy does something, it's always different."
This is very true, also as evidenced by the fact that many Trump supporters were decrying Obama's overuse of Executive Orders. Meanwhile, Trump is on a pace to implement 10 times what Obama did, if Trump were given 8 years to move at this pace.
Obama implemented 276 orders over 8 years, somewhat middle of the road for number of orders implemented by a President. Trump is averaging about 1 per day at this point, which would have him at 276 before the end of his first year in office. Funny thing is, on the conservative sites I visit (or Trump supporting sites, since I don't consider him a true conservative), the use of these EO's is being praised endlessly as some of the greatest times in modern political history.
to Tired & Bric, Obamas and Trumps are different.
One was temporary due to specific threat concern and the workload associated with it and not a penalty for green card holders and others with legal status. Trump's is for all, unrelated to a threat and unrelated to most of the countries that have terrorized us.
Trumps Faulty Refugee Policy Comparison
I don't understand why they don't put the refugees in Saudi Arabia. It would cost 1/10th as much and therefore 10x as many could receive the things they need, like cell phones and stuff.
Why shouldn't our current president insure the vetting process is effective? It was one of his campaign promises. In the meantime, the rich countries in the middle east are finally stepping up to their responsibilities.
Actually Chris, 0bama did implement travel bans of a whole bunch of people. So did bill clinton.
Sure,sure. When your favorite guy does something, it's always different. We see.
This is why no one pays attention to the elites and the media anymore.
That Obama claim is only a 3-Pinocchio lie, at least.
Obama blocked entry to people from Iraq in 2011, for 120 days, I think:
The media didn't seem to object to that though. I wonder why?
This why we have a country of laws instead if decrees. You are entitles to your shit, bad habits, and hatred here because of LAWS.
The way I see it is that President Trump just wants to make sure that those that have a legal right to be here are legit. All he is trying to do is protect America. The same people that bitched and moaned when Obama was allowing all those refugees into America are the same ones bitching and complaining now about Trump. Give the man a break and let's see what happens. Those individuals that have the proper paperwork and legit visas, passports and resident cards will be able to come back. America was built on immigrants but unfortunately there are many in other parts of this world that want to cause us harm and see us crumble. I guess President Trump just want to make sure that they don't bring their shit, bad habits, and their hatred here. WE DON'T NEED IT or WANT IT!
"For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction." Whattya expect?
@Grove - There's no hope of slowing them down on the hyperbole. They're in the middle of an orgasm of hate. While carrying signs that say 'Love' on them.
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