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Re: “Game on: City Gets a Deannexation Plan Of Its Own to Mull Over

@CL - Well having lived around here off and on for about five decades, I can state categorically that North Mississippi exists in some kind of parallel dimension. But the analogous case of Central Gardens may simply be that it's the metallic hydrogen core of the star that doesn't evaporate like the plasma which surrounds it. It's so compressed that it has turned into a different type of material altogether.

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Posted by OakTree on 02/10/2017 at 11:49 AM

Re: “Game on: City Gets a Deannexation Plan Of Its Own to Mull Over

@Oak

I'd buy that star metaphor a lot more easily if it wasn't for all these damn historical documents that say the city became flooded with Freedmen after the Emancipation and the Gentry have hated and attempted to abandon Memphis ever since.

That and many Confederates blamed Memphis "Not fighting back hard enough" and "letting the contrabands join the Union" for losing the war. The documents say the Gentry of the time were extremely offended that ex-slaves would choose to serve Yankees after all those good years they had together, what with all the luxurious field toil, rough ground corn, boiled tripe, and watermelon they used to be so generously given for free.

Even now Memphis is regularly treated as "wasteful" of tax money, like when we use it to do frivolous things like try and teach people how to read . Field hands never needed to learn how to read before! Johnny Cash made an amazing movie called "Bluffing It" about the subject of education being a tool to keep the lower classes from rising above middlemanagement, and the resentments illiterate whites felt when learning publicly educated blacks could easily master the written word.

It's probably one of the reasons Nashville went out of their way to destroy Cash's career with disco records back then, too.

http://www.nytimes.com/1987/09/11/arts/blu…

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092679/plotsu…

Posted by FUNKbrs on 02/10/2017 at 11:31 AM

Re: “Game on: City Gets a Deannexation Plan Of Its Own to Mull Over

Oak,
hmmm, well ok, just as long as you earthlings stay out of my corner of Mississippi.
ps. Gravitational collapse doesn't account for the continued popularity of the Central Gardens unless you factor in multiple sometimes parallel Dimensions.

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Posted by CL Mullins on 02/10/2017 at 10:31 AM

Re: “Game on: City Gets a Deannexation Plan Of Its Own to Mull Over

In college when I took astronomy, the physics of stars fascinated me. It turns out, that during their brightest early days, the energetic fusion powering their cores emits so much radiation, that the photon pressure pressing out from the center, prevents gravitational collapse:

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase…

Later, as the radiant energy, and thus photon pressure, declines, those stars eventually collapse inward upon themselves, forming white dwarfs, neutron stars, or even black holes, if the original star mass was big enough:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitationa…

It seems to me, that cities can be like that as well. When real estate markets are too hot, they expand, and can push development out to places where it really is kind of nonsensical. But as the real estate markets cool, and the gravitation of people back to the city core depopulates the suburbs and exurbs, there has to be some kind of a similar retrenchment.

Posted by OakTree on 02/10/2017 at 9:46 AM

Re: “Game on: City Gets a Deannexation Plan Of Its Own to Mull Over

More ad hominem. How droll, babsy.

I was actually unaware the Loebs were jewish. Now that I know, I still don't care. I don't like the Loebs for what they have done, not because of what race they may or may not be. In fact, if the Loebs had stayed gone after they fled the city the first time, I wouldn't have a problem with them now.

Again, my problem is not with bigots leaving, my problem is with them coming back. My preference is for people to not oversimplify their problems into terms of race because they cannot understand the deeper issues, but hey, being dumb isn't a crime.

Posted by FUNKbrs on 02/10/2017 at 8:41 AM

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I wasn't under the impression you possess a mind that can change.

Why don't you just call the Loeb family "a bunch of wily Jews" and go all in with your antisemitism? You don't seem shy with your hate towards other people, so why so shy now?

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Posted by Bric-a-Brac on 02/09/2017 at 5:15 PM

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My mind is completely changed now Babsy.

Thank you for doubling down in the face of compromise: you've taught me so much.

Posted by FUNKbrs on 02/09/2017 at 4:39 PM

Re: “Game on: City Gets a Deannexation Plan Of Its Own to Mull Over

Just calling it like I see it. It is bullshit. Total and complete bullshit.

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Posted by Bric-a-Brac on 02/09/2017 at 4:09 PM

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Funkbrs, give Brichy credit for staying on topic.

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Posted by Nick R on 02/09/2017 at 1:44 PM

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@babs

"Bullshit" <--sounds like a well thought out and convincing argument.

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Posted by FUNKbrs on 02/09/2017 at 1:38 PM

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Without spending too much time on this (but I will if I have to), the version of annexation as given by funkkk is bullshit.

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Posted by Bric-a-Brac on 02/09/2017 at 1:24 PM

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Much respect for the Seussian take on bigots there FUNK.

One area where I think we can/should all be able to agree though is that if your eggs are green, don't eat them.

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Posted by GroveReb84 on 02/09/2017 at 12:59 PM

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@brackston

I find it really hard to believe Memphis police are over paid, or that their retirement packages are undeserved.

How any one could take someone who served faithfully to protect people and throw them out in the cold for a tax break without shame is beyond me. I was raised to be loyal to those who protect me. However, many city residents did exactly this when they fled to the suburbs after the Civil Rights Movement, and they police they betrayed were the ones that bore the brunt of that very problem.

And who caused the the Sanitation Strike that caused MLK's assassination that ultimately led to the evacuation of the city to the suburbs? Loeb. Mayor Loeb and the Loeb family. One of the major businesses targeted during the riots was a Cleaner's owned by Mayor Loeb's brother.

And who passed the emergency law allowing Mayor Loeb to institute a curfew during the riots? Nashville. And who sent the national guard with bayonets to suppress the riot? Nashville.

Because they were trying to undo the work of Robert Church who bought up the city last time it was evacuated during the Yellow Fever epidemic, and in order to do that, they would have to evacuate the city again and buy it back up.

Which, if you notice, Loeb has done.

The suburbs were always a shake to screw the people out of their valuable inner city land by artificially devaluing it so it could be bought for a song. The hidden cost in time, gas, and automobiles are eating suburbanites alive, which is why they can't afford their taxes in the first place.

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Posted by FUNKbrs on 02/09/2017 at 11:18 AM

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But Brackston, don't you know it's really all about bigotry and racism?

Posted by Bric-a-Brac on 02/09/2017 at 11:05 AM

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Well, it doesn't take long for the discussion to focus on the intended results by the de-annexation coup. 'look over there and don't watch what we are doing and have done'.
The city annexed for tax revs, not to improve services. The facts are; Memphis needed and needs the money for bloated retirement issues, lack of ample contributions to fulfill those promises and avoid increasing the taxes on the same residents that supported their relief by sharing their burden with county residents that were perfectly happy without city services. I was one. Thanks to annexation and politicians, our taxes doubled, the county officers was replaced by city officers, crime increased, services were reduced to city level mundane, property valued dropped, education system was devalued to MSC level, riff-raff increased, businesses fled, residents fled and pre-annex Memphis city tax payers were happy they dodged another tax hike bullet.
Remember when GW Bush rolled back the clinton tax hike.....? Almost every city, county and state went up on taxes that year or the next. We get a cut from the Fed and an increase from the local governments.
I strongly encourage you to 'follow the money' as it pertains to the pensions of Memphis City, Shelby County and Tennessee State government. Issuing debt quietly to service pensions in lieu of addressing the problem of inflated salaries and pensions. Politicians seeking votes by campaign promises is the problem here and most cities that think inside the political vote buying box.
"Knock, knock.... we're with the city gov't and we're here to help".
Run Forest run!

Posted by Brackston on 02/09/2017 at 10:43 AM

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I do not like bigotry in the land
I do not like it FUNKbrs I am
I don't like bigots in my town
or in the country, all around

I would not, could not, in the burbs
Bigots there are for the birds
I would not, could not, in city streets
No bigotry, it's not for me.

I would not, could not, across state lines
Nor bigots in far off forest pines
I would not, could not, on country farms
Where bigots feel most safe from harm

I would not, could not, in a church
Bigots in pulpits causing hurt
I would not, could not, in a store
Please no more bigots anymore

I would not, could not, in the schools
Miseducated bigot fools
I would not, could not, on the job
Commiserating bigot slobs

I would not, could not, west or east
I can't stand bigots in the the least
I would not, could not, north or south
No bigot words from bigot mouths

If your are a bigot, and get caught
Just stop thinking prejudged thoughts
Treat each person as separate and new
and bigotry won't influence you

No, don't prejudge by sex or race
even in your bigoted safe-space
Treat every person polite and kind
Even if bigot thoughts might cross your mind

I do not like bigotry in the land
I do not like it, FUNKbrs I am
I don't like bigots in my town
Or in the country, all around.

Posted by FUNKbrs on 02/09/2017 at 9:54 AM

Re: “Game on: City Gets a Deannexation Plan Of Its Own to Mull Over

Funk just hates, Grover.

Posted by Bric-a-Brac on 02/08/2017 at 10:31 PM

Re: “Game on: City Gets a Deannexation Plan Of Its Own to Mull Over

OK FUNK, so what is it you want? You complain that people leave when annexed, but then you say you don't want that trash in your city.

It seems to me you'd be all for de-annexation then, since you'd be removing much of that "trash" from your city. I don't get it.

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Posted by GroveReb84 on 02/07/2017 at 4:11 PM

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I think drunken suburbanites is the equivalent of hipster white boys trying to co-opt black culture and angst.

Posted by crackoamerican on 02/06/2017 at 11:38 PM

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I have enough trouble with drunken suburbanites trying to "slum it" in my neighborhood as it is. The plan is to get them to leave and stay gone, not attract more of them. If I wanted to live in Nashville, I would move there. The last thing I could possibly want is for suburban trash to destroy Memphis's culture like they've done in New York. People are fleeing New York in droves because of gentrification pricing everyone out.

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Posted by FUNKbrs on 02/06/2017 at 10:30 PM

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