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Re: “District 95 Showdown

People who swallow partisan talking points, without thinking about what they really mean, tend to oppose things that are actually good for them, or support things that are measurably bad for them. This cognitive dissonance is common on both extremes of the political spectrum and is related to the extent to which they allow ideology to override rational self examination.

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Posted by Thoughtful on 04/23/2017 at 7:33 PM

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Infrastructure grows businesses and businesses create jobs, profits, and dividends. I fail to understand why so many are against the gas tax and lowering the food tax.

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Posted by LoveBC on 04/23/2017 at 5:31 PM

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jrgolden,

Hate it when I agree with you. Too much us v. them.

TN needs the buffer for the next down turn in the economy.

Infrastructure is in bad shape, the gas tax is a good idea as well as lowering the tax on food a bit.

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Posted by Timeout4 on 04/22/2017 at 4:17 PM

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TN needs a good sized buffer of money in reserve. We will need that come the next down turn in the economy. The gas tax is a very good idea as we need to do a better job with keeping up infrastructure and lowering the tax on food a bit. I'm not a big tax and spend liberal, but it is past time to get or infrastructure in order.

jrgolden, I hate it when I agree with you. There is too much of the us v. them attitude.

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Posted by Timeout4 on 04/22/2017 at 4:15 PM

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jrgolden,
I meant to say "and don't slow down til I hit a squirrel" which pretty much defines reaching Midtown or plowing into the TN GOP delegation. (beavers notwithstanding)

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Posted by CL Mullins on 04/22/2017 at 10:24 AM

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@ CL Mullins
Now that was funny!

As a rule I don't like to comment about public servants outside of my districts. However, within the preceding comments I see a trend of defining space as opposition to Memphis. If this is all it takes to be defined as a political leader, then I guess that's as good as it'll get. I see how a Mae Beavers is seen as a legitimate candidate for the governorship of Tennessee.

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Posted by jrgolden on 04/22/2017 at 10:05 AM

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jrgolden,
It's true. When I go to Memphis, I drive straight up 55 and don't slow down til I hit Midtown.

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Posted by CL Mullins on 04/22/2017 at 9:43 AM

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Wow! Suburbia incubates a lot of aggression and passion.

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Posted by jrgolden on 04/22/2017 at 9:34 AM

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@datGuy - Let's see, is this where I say, LOL?

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Posted by OakTree on 04/22/2017 at 12:25 AM

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So Oak, is it ethical to out someone? Tell me how? or some of your other childish BS?

Bruce, at some point you need to make a decision about that clown and remove him

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Posted by datGuy on 04/22/2017 at 12:12 AM

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@CL - I tend to concur with LoveBC about real Libertarians, as opposed to recently disaffected conservatives, who understand that Trump doesn't really represent their issues, and want to differentiate themselves. About Tomsik though, or his acolyte Granecki, as I stated above, I couldn't care less. More internet blather.

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Posted by OakTree on 04/21/2017 at 11:39 PM

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@datGuy - Most assuredly, Pete. Quite so. Maybe you and your co-worker should take a class in ethics some day. Might do you both some good.

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Posted by OakTree on 04/21/2017 at 11:21 PM

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Oak, more ethical behavior for you today? LOL

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Posted by datGuy on 04/21/2017 at 9:56 PM

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Oak and Mia,
I too went to Tomsik's website and he says he is a man who has fought all his life. Pathology or allegory, doesn't say. As Mia says he makes a point about being pro-life, but his supporter says he would never vote to ban abortion; that is one pandering mother. What else would he like to express his opposition to but refuse to do anything about? The list may be staggering which might explain his combativeness. And yes, just where are those pine covered mountains in District 95?
And I have no idea who the hell Oak is. Why am I the last to know?

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Posted by CL Mullins on 04/21/2017 at 9:21 PM

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Hi again Walt. Say, did you happen to actually, you know, READ the Tennessee budget that I linked above?

You claim, "..our state government is bloated with over spending..."

Which is measurably incorrect. In fact, Tennessee has the best record of any state in the Union when it comes to operating in the black. We are always #1, #2, #3, in that regard, year after year. We wouldn't even HAVE a surplus if we were overspending. So that's just a bunch of malarky.

Then you say, "..It's funny how uncivil you are just and attacked my candidate because I expressed my support for someone you oppose..."

Which isn't even an English sentence. What the heck are you trying to say? I'm not attacking anyone, and I certainly don't oppose or EVEN CARE who the Libertarian Party candidate is for District 95. I back the Greens, actually. And we don't have a dog in this fight.

What I DO insist on though, is that if you come on this message board and make claims about this or that, that you back up these claims up with facts. And honestly Walt, you are sucking pretty badly at that right about now.

You can't find the facts, EVEN WHEN I GIVE YOU A FREAKING LINK TO THEM.

You continue, "..Make this about why the candidate you support is better than other candidates not about attacking people based on who they support, which has nothing to do with the individuals running. I think I have you pretty much pinned down as not being an oak tree and know exactly who you are. Good luck..."

What are you trying to say, Walt? You know exactly who I am? Huh. I think most people here on this site know exactly who I am. As in, what my real name is, where I go to church, who I work for, what kind of drinks I prefer... the whole nine yards. I know who most of them are too. So what?

But what's the 'good luck' for? Are you threatening me? Or stalking me? Should I be worried? Do I need to call the cops?

I know who your name is attached to also.

And Pete's for that matter.

How about you just admit you are wrong, and acknowledge that Governor Haslam passing the gas tax bill is actually a benefit to the large majority of Tennesseans? Mathematically?

How about you stop trying to foist off your political opinions as 'facts', when things are a lot more complicated than your 'Libertarian' talking points?

Hmm?

Thanks in advance.

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Posted by OakTree on 04/21/2017 at 5:38 PM

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I recognize those facts you posted, the systematic problem with it is our state government is bloated with over spending. I'm not gonna go into details here, because this is about the candidates and not about attacking voters. It's funny how uncivil you are just and attacked my candidate because I expressed my support for someone you oppose. Make this about why the candidate you support is better than other candidates not about attacking people based on who they support, which has nothing to do with the individuals running. I think I have you pretty much pinned down as not being an oak tree and know exactly who you are. Good luck.

I'm civil and not attacking any candidate, individual, or party nor accusing people of ignoring facts. I welcome you to a Libertarian Party meeting to discuss these issues with you, but in the meantime I stand behind Jim Tomasik and being the best candidate for State Rep, many other candidates running may be better fit for City Council of Collierville but not State Rep.

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Posted by Walt Granecki on 04/21/2017 at 3:41 PM

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@Emily - Yeah, so I watched your link. And as a retired military officer, I can tell you that your 'informed' individual was neither well informed, nor really even interested in whatever Senator Corker had to say in answer. She was hostile, and interrupted him more than once, without letting him get in a reply. He was incredibly polite to her despite this, and carefully tried to figure out what her specific concerns were. Yet in the end, all she wanted to do was try to make Corker the target for her disdain for Trump. Despite the fact that Corker has been quite vocal during these last few months, in trying to keep Trump on task in international affairs.

This sort of bullying behavior certainly doesn't reflect well on any citizen who considers themselves to be a liberal thinker, and more particularly, just gives ammunition to conservatives, who argue that there is no point in even trying to engage in healthy discussion with partisans on the other side of the aisle, because they act like this.

I suggest, if you are at all interested in remaining relevant politically, in either state or national politics, that you retain the language of civility within the debates of our time. Because failure to do so will not result in your side winning. It will just make moderates like me completely ignore you.

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Posted by OakTree on 04/21/2017 at 2:54 PM

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Senator Corker WAS asked about Syria and North Korea...immediately after this "town hall" ended. If his "unbelievable" remark was in some way meant to lambast the audience for not asking the "right questions" or for not asking about Syria and N Korea, not only is that rude, but completely false. Here's the video of him being asked these questions very directly by an informed constituent.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=HRJ2LhsrQDI

Also, he may be on the Foreign Relations Committee, but that's HARDLY the ONLY set of issues he votes on. Pretending that his constituents are somehow mislead or ignorant because people were upset about the full spectrum of issues he votes on is misleading, at best. Our elected officials DO NOT have the authority or even the moral/ethical right to define or determine what issues their constituents are concerned about. His office said 99% of the calls they got on DeVos were against her and yet he voted for her anyway. Local media needs to hold him accountable on his disdain for his constituents and their concerns.

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Posted by Emily Fulmer on 04/21/2017 at 1:49 PM

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@Jennifer Morris - I suspect the rumors to which Jackson alludes in his opening paragraph are correct. Senator Corker has all the bona fides of a proper Republican presidential candidate. As such, this 'Travel around the Volunteer State' was likely designed to keep backers and local party intelligentsia abreast of the recent changes in the currents that flow back in the Dismal Swamp that is Washington, and what plans our own Godzilla has therein. Stops would therefore be organized in their strongholds. And downtown Memphis ain't exactly one of those. Thus the location, methinks.

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Posted by OakTree on 04/21/2017 at 1:19 PM

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Interesting article. With respect to Syria and North Korea, Senator Corker absolutely would have been asked questions on that topic if he'd spent more time with his audience. He stopped taking questions after only about 40 minutes. It should be noted that people were literally standing in the room with a giant ~7 ft. "Veterans for Peace" flag in his full view. And based on what I recall, he did discuss Syria by way of lamenting that action had not been taken years ago when it could have saved more lives. (He neglected to take ownership of the fact that the GOP opposed giving President Obama the authority to act at that time, but that's another matter and he was generally more supportive than the rest of his party on that particular issue...) Overall, I applaud him for taking time to speak with his constituents; but I do it at a very low decibel level because choosing to meet at a coffee shop 30 miles outside of a major metropolitan area at 8:00am on a weekday (when he literally traveled into that major metropolitan city for lunch) was a very weak move. He could have easily hosted a real town hall after 5:00pm within the city limits of the town he was there to visit.

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Posted by Jennifer Morris on 04/21/2017 at 12:24 PM

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