If you want to talk crappy movies, The Two Towers and Return of the King are about as bad as they come. I had been a Tolkien fan since childhood when Fellowship of the Ring came out, and I loved it. The next two movies were god-awful. Even I, as a gay man, want to puke at every scene with Sam and Frodo. I would say Peter Jackson loved the material to death.
Fortunately, The Hobbit was better, if utterly ridiculous as a dramatization of the book.
Maybe some year in the near future, Hollywood will have an original idea.
I agree with Jeff and Chris. There's nothing worse than a director who gets in the foreground. It's unforgivable. And honestly, if you like this kind of stuff, you want to nerd out on the subtle references and backstory anyway. Special effects are secondary.
I agree Chris. I tend to lump directors and producers together, for the sake of simplicity. Directorial flourishes I can appreciate, especially if they improve the story. The key, though, is the love and respect of the source material. If I only see a franchise's popularity as a vehicle to deliver butts to seats to watch MY story, then the movie I make invariably sucks.
Judging by his tweets JB may have liked it less than me. Thought Leto merited a Golden Raspberry.
I'd love to get John Beifuss' take on this film, but.......
I think you're close to bullseye Jeff. I'm not sure it's just about the directors though. You really get some nice directorial flourishes in Marvel properties like Ant-Man and Guardians of the Galaxy, but they help tell the story in fun ways. They don't get in the way. I love a lot of DC but not so much since the New 52 relaunch. They've done a semi- reboot since that has improved things. But the cinematic universe went full bore while DC was reinventing itself, and fixing things that weren't broken. Suicide Squad is, in most regards, the least tampered with yet. It's just a badly made mess. Lots of delicious bites poorly assembled.
Jeff, agreed. Too often directors think they know better than those whose writing has created generations of fans.
Sorry the best joker ever was Jack.
Wonder why DC movies suck? Because DC sucks.
No seriously, I think it comes down to philosophy. As it was with fantasy movies before Lord of the Rings, directors and producers invariable see the comic book genre as deeply unserious and in need of their own very special, special super mega talented touch to make it better. For all his flaws, Peter Jackson loved the source material. And for the most part, the directors Marvel chose (not including the Marvel properties they sold off before Iron Man) have respected the source material enough to let the story tell the story and disappear into the background as much as possible. DC directors (and the directors of the X-Men, Fantastic Four, and Spiderman movies, created outside the control of Marvel properties) have set out to tell their own stories via the established characters and storylines, because ego.
The proof is in Captain America Civil War and the character of Spiderman. In his few minutes of screen time, he crushed all the other full-budget, three-movie, rebooted Spidermen. How can Sony make another Spiderman movie who isn't the same Spiderman as the one in Captain America? They can't. If they try, it will bomb.
Also, DC sucks.
What's wrong with critics i've seen this movie twice and I fucking love it.
It has the right amount of action, comedy, and touching story moments to make you feel like you're in a
Comic. And as for the hate on Jared Leto's Joker I feel like it was the 2nd best live action Joker We've seen
(None will ever match The Dark Knight's R.I.P Heath Ledger) He feels new and refreshing, but at the same time the same. And the Villains were done really well i like how they wanted you to think Enchantress would join the Squad but didn't. All in all if you were going to watch this movie but didn't because of critics i say fuck them this is an AMAZING MOVIE. Go watch it the only thing you'll regret is the fact that you have to wait for Wonder Woman and Justice League.
Are you guys getting free movie tickets from Marvel? That's the only explanation I can find for critics' hatred of the new DC movies. I've seen Dawn of Justice 4 times now, and I would rank it as one of the best movies I've ever seen. The Ultimate Edition makes the movie even better than the theatrical release.
Maybe it's time for a Suicide Squat reboot.
Can you reboot when you only did one movie?
Posted like a true nerd. Congratulations!
I don't see that information either. I'm viewing on my phone.
All that and some "Little Red Book." I get that stuck in my head for days at at time.
Arthur Lee is the man! Some of my favorites are "Signed DC," "She Comes in Colors," "Always See Your Face," and "Which Witch is Which!"
The venue and showtime is at the bottom of the article, directly above your comment.
Chris - I expected a venue and showtimes, or is this a very cruel tease?
I am a Julia Morgan fan and visited the Hearst Castle in the 90s which prompted me to see the movie. Very powerful cinema at the top of my list of favs-quite by accident. It is disconcerting how little the political arena has changed. Very nice comparison.
I really like this movie, moreso than this reviewer. But this review is fair and balanced. Mr. McCoy seems to weigh the film against the source material and not the Tarzan films of past decades. One correction: 1. Edgar Rice Burroughs was not an Englishman. He was an American, born and raised in Chicago. Having read many of the pulp magazines of the early part of the last century, he felt he could write stories as good, or bad, as those he was reading. Thus, John Carter of Mars and Tarzan of the Apes were conceived.
Mr. McCoy is a bit critical of the flashbacks stretching into the 2nd half of the movie, but one of them, the killing of Kala, Tarzan's ape mother, by Chief Mbonga's son and followed by Tarzan killing the young warrior in a vengeful rage, is an important point in this story. It shows us why Chief Mbonga wants to kill Tarzan.
By Chris Shaw & Chris McCoy
download this issue
click here to see more »