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Re: “Game 2: Spurs 93, Grizzlies 89 (OT) — Can’t Repeat the Past?

As Herrington pointed out, TA did flop AND that was a correct flagrant foul call. Both things can be true in the universe.
Hollins hasn't played the Grizz small for any extended period so I doubt he starts now. They key for MEM is to play a better brand of pick and roll defense which it looks like they figured out in the second half. Also, taking Prince out of the game improves the spacing enough on offense so that Zbo can punish Bonner in the post.

Posted by Neo-Realist on 05/22/2013 at 7:46 AM

Re: “Game 2: Spurs 93, Grizzlies 89 (OT) — Can’t Repeat the Past?

Very encouraging just like Game 2 against the Clippers.

Lionel has definitely figured out the key for the Grizz in this match up on both ends of the floor. Now the question is how Pop and the Spurs respond. They're a great team, but they're going to have to make sure they have the answers to win 2 more. After last night, I expect this to go 7 and come down to the final minutes in Game 7.


As an aside, after all these years of Ginobli flopping more than anyone in the NBA, there was some poetic justice in Tony Allen pulling the old soccer sell on a Ginobli foul. I figured the officials would drop the flagrant on review, but my only guess is they told Pop that they deserved the call after all these years.

I still hate that soccer flop business, but I can live with it from Allen solely because it worked against Ginobli.

Posted by GroveReb84 on 05/22/2013 at 6:26 AM

Re: “Game 2: Spurs 93, Grizzlies 89 (OT) — Can’t Repeat the Past?

Prince and Arthur have been disastrous in this series. Start Qpon. And give Davis Arthur's second-half minutes if he has another bad first-half in game 3. And no more Tony Wroten.

Posted by Iggy on 05/22/2013 at 2:59 AM

Re: “Game 2: Spurs 93, Grizzlies 89 (OT) — Can’t Repeat the Past?

Oh, and Lionel has to get on the refs (in the press, not just during games) about how Diaw and Bonner "set" screens. I know the league has let this go, but Diaw and Bonner just go run into the our guys. It is impossible to play D on Parker if they don't get called for any illegal screens. A couple of whistles here and there would really change how these games go.

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Posted by Evil on 05/22/2013 at 1:48 AM

Re: “Game 2: Spurs 93, Grizzlies 89 (OT) — Can’t Repeat the Past?

I keep coming back to this idea that the Grizz should go ultra small when Bonner is on the court. Like either QPon or TA at the the 4 small. Tying in to Lowe's great article on the Bonner factor, DA cannot make them pay on D for playing Bonner so the other option is try to make him guard on the perimeter and blow by him. On D, just switch everything. Thoughts?

Posted by Evil on 05/22/2013 at 1:38 AM

Re: “Game 2: Spurs 93, Grizzlies 89 (OT) — Can’t Repeat the Past?

Seems weird to write this, but Grizz in 7. SAS can play at a higher level than Grizz, but I dont think they can sustain it. Grit and grind has a chance to win the series.

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Posted by Neo-Realist on 05/22/2013 at 12:08 AM

Re: “Griz-Spurs Game 2 Preview: Everything is Everything

Tough game. This will be a heck of a series. I like Randolph. It's unfair to expect him to carry the offense. If you ever want to trade him....

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Posted by Wolfgang Goethe on 05/21/2013 at 11:29 PM

Re: “Griz-Spurs Game 2 Preview: Everything is Everything

So the Spurs got here by beating the Lakers without Kobe and the Warriors without David Lee, and this guy wants to discount our route to the conference finals. Love it.

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Posted by GroveReb84 on 05/21/2013 at 9:34 PM

Re: “Griz-Spurs Game 2 Preview: Everything is Everything

By the way, I do have tons of respect for the way the Spurs play between whistles. However, after the whistle, they're the biggest bunch of whiny crybabies in the league. No team even comes close to matching them.

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Posted by GroveReb84 on 05/21/2013 at 8:25 PM

Re: “Griz-Spurs Game 2 Preview: Everything is Everything

To Grove: I can't deny that the Grizz play well against crippled playoff teams. The Spurs don't exactly have anything to whine about. They play clean, exciting basketball. And mostly win. It's almost showtime. Break a leg.

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Posted by Wolfgang Goethe on 05/21/2013 at 8:09 PM

Re: “Griz-Spurs Game 2 Preview: Everything is Everything

Ha. Yep. 56 wins and the Conference Finals means you can't win in the NBA without shooters and above the rim players.

Do you not remember that this team knocked yours out of the playoffs with the exact same style two years ago?

It is definitely nice to have a bunch of shooters and dunkers, but all that really matters is stopping your opponent and being efficient on offense. Also getting extra possessions, via turnovers and rebounds is key.

One thing I do know is that whining isn't a part of American basketball.

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Posted by GroveReb84 on 05/21/2013 at 7:54 PM

Re: “Griz-Spurs Game 2 Preview: Everything is Everything

GroveReb84: The Spurs can very well play contact and physical ball, and they can also run the court and play long ball. That's American basketball. What it is that a one-dimensional teams plays, I don't know, perhaps Russian ball. But it's no recipe for success in the NBA. Frankly, basketball is a game for super players, and your team is lacking. Spurs in six.

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Posted by Wolfgang Goethe on 05/21/2013 at 5:03 PM

Re: “Griz-Spurs Game 2 Preview: Everything is Everything

@Wolfgang, I don't know that I agree with that as a rule.

For one thing, people in Memphis don't like European style basketball, which basically plays more like soccer (lots of flopping and complaining to refs). We prefer American basketball, which plays more like football (playing through contact and playing physical).

The only major contributor we have that's foreign born is Marc Gasol, and he played his prep ball in Memphis. He's not your typical Euro basketball player.

As far as what the Grizz have to do in this series, it's simply make defensive adjustments and move the ball better offensively.

This team has looked bad in each Game 1 so far in this year's playoffs, but once they start making adjustments, they've been able to clamp down on opponents. The Spurs are a different animal, but I think you'll see a tight series all the way through.

I do have a lot of respect for how smart the Spurs play basketball. That's why I've expected this series to be a hard fought series, but I do think whoever wins it will have been extended to the max to pull out the series.

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Posted by GroveReb84 on 05/21/2013 at 3:59 PM

Re: “Griz-Spurs Game 2 Preview: Everything is Everything

As a Spurs fan, I will be watching to see how closely the Griz stick to their game plan. The Spurs know that they have the game in hand when teams, when frustrated, try to intimidate the Spurs--and thus abandon their game plan. The Griz are like the Spurs in many ways, and have a great future. One tip: look for more help from foreign teams--Parker, Genobili, Splitter, even Duncan (Virgin Islands) did not develop here.

Posted by Wolfgang Goethe on 05/21/2013 at 2:37 PM

Re: “Griz-Spurs Game 2 Preview: Everything is Everything

@J-Val, I agree on Tony, which Chris said as well.

Especially against a team like this who has so many shooters and moves the ball so well, he needs to be on the ball.

I do see where his minutes may need to be limited in this match up moreso than usual, but when he is in the game, I think his value is in guarding Parker. I will be interested to see Lionel's adjustments. He's shown so far that he and his staff are good with adjustments, and once they make them, it's tough for the other team to readjust and do enough to win.

San Antonio is a great team because they play as a team, but they are not unbeatable, and I think they know they're going to have to scrape and claw to get 4 wins out of this series.

As Chris said before the series, Game 1 was way more important for San Antonio than Memphis due to our penchant for getting stronger defensively as the series progresses and we diagnose what it is the opponent does well offensively.

Posted by GroveReb84 on 05/21/2013 at 12:53 PM

Re: “Griz-Spurs Game 2 Preview: Everything is Everything

I warned people that there was no way the Grizzlies should be favored over the Spurs, despite the national media jumping on the bandwagon. Here are the reasons I listed:

1. The Spurs have home court. I expect the Spurs to win in 7.

2. The Spurs have great outside shooters, especially from the 3-point range. The Grizz do not. Every time they've been bounced from the playoffs it's been because of their
lack of outside shooting.

3. The Spurs have the most motivation. Every since the Grizz bounced them from the playoffs as an eighth seed, SA has been on a mission of payback.

4. Much as I hate to admit it, POP is the best coach in the league. Lionel isn't chopped liver but he'll have to at least coach Popovich to a draw for the Grizz to advance.

5. SA has the experience in these kind of series and the Grizz do not. Winning championships is a progression. Going from never having advanced past the second round to champions may be too much of a stretch.

In my opinion, the key to this series is Tony Parker. Someone will have to be able to stay in front of him and at least slow him down. If he continues to get into the paint at will, we're through. I say Put Tony on him, plead with him not to make foolish fouls, live with Parker's forays into the lane, and not leave their three-point shooters.

Also, Grizz fans, don't worry, be happy. The team has accomplished a lot. Root for them but don't get all bent out of shape if they lose. I framed the stories of the Grizz clinching against the Clips and OKC. I'm good for this year as long as the Grizz play hard and put up a fight.

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Posted by J-Val on 05/21/2013 at 11:01 AM

Re: “Griz-Spurs Game 2 Preview: Everything is Everything

I heard on radio this morning that Hollins had said it wasn't so bad after reviewing the tape.

I assume by that he meant that the problems he saw were easily fixable. That was very encouraging to hear.

The pattern in the first two series has been odd line ups and losses in Game 1. Our coaching staff has almost used Game 1 as a barometer to measure the opponent and figure out during live action what works and what doesn't.

I think they believe they have answers this time too. We will find out tonight if they have answers. Even if tonight is a close loss (like the Clipper series), I will be encouraged.

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Posted by GroveReb84 on 05/21/2013 at 10:21 AM

Re: “Game 1: Spurs 105, Grizzlies 83 — When 0-1 Looks Steeper Than it Did Before

@Wolfgang,

I supposed maybe the Grizzlies would be less boring if they spent the entire game overreacting to every small bit of contact and then complaining to the refs about every call that didn't go their way.

I have a lot of respect for what the Spurs do as a team when it comes to real basketball, but the whining is tiring and takes away from what they do right.

The Grizzlies aren't all that different than the Spurs, just with a bit less whining. This team knows what it is, just like the Spurs, and it doesn't try to be something it isn't.

We have 3 starters that made first or second team All-Defense this year. We have two bigs that play well together and dominate the post by sheer force. We only have a few players that hit threes. Those shortcomings force us to a certain style of play, but I enjoy it, because it forces team basketball, and it forces us to play for the extra possessions (turnovers/rebounds) to win games. In a league full of players that play above the rim or live by hitting shots from 30 feet, it's unique to see a team that wins with neither.

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Posted by GroveReb84 on 05/20/2013 at 2:42 PM

Re: “Game 1: Spurs 105, Grizzlies 83 — When 0-1 Looks Steeper Than it Did Before

I suppose they could continue tripping the Spurs stars until they seriously injure one of them. Keep on grinding, boring basketball.

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Posted by Wolfgang Goethe on 05/20/2013 at 10:04 AM

Re: “Game 1: Spurs 105, Grizzlies 83 — When 0-1 Looks Steeper Than it Did Before

True, and what was most discouraging was the look of sheer hopelessness on Randolph's face.

Having said that, he had a poor gm 1 against the Clippers, not even that great in gm 2, and we all know how that turned out.

Zbo was terrible, but I think that he's done more than enough in the very recent past to earn a long leash before anyone talks about yanking him... they just need to make a few adjustments and get him the ball in better position.

Posted by grizzdoc on 05/19/2013 at 11:03 PM

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