With all these injuries I think Joerger needs to use Franklin they way he did on Monday (15 minutes) as opposed to the 7.5 minutes he's been averaging. This should allow this kid to get comfortable and find his way in the NBA and a spot on the team and hopefully he can be an asset come playoff time.
For the love of all that is good and decent in this world, please allow the tanking to commence. This team is done.
What is the difference between a capacity crowd of 28,000 people and the same number of people in a stadium with a capacity of 60,000? Does the U of M pay for maintenance and upkeep of the Liberty Bowl?
Those last two games were mystifying, like they just quit on their coach. That's a troubling sign.
I was one of the ones surprised by SI's 9th place prediction and honestly thought the Grizzlies would wind up with the #2 seed and reach the finals....they probably won't make the #2 seed now but I still believe, when and if everyone gets healthy this team can reach the finals.
One good thing U of M has a new A.D. Maybe the university will hire a real coach and stop being so damn cheap .Fuente is a Bust at best, larry Porter was a recruiter and that cheap worthless Ex A.D. R.C. Johnson knew this, any U of M true fan could have done a better job than R C Johnson and for way less money , A winning local High school coach good do a better job than the last 3 head football coaches !
Tigers fans let's not get too excited. Let's keep an even keel and not nominate Pastner for the Coaches Hall of Fame just yet. Expect another clunker or inexplicable loss or two down the road.
Shaq played great but I'm still concerned about his rebounding, as I am with the entire team. As Pat Riley famously said "No rebounds, no rings".
My take on the Tigers is they will go only as far as Joe Jackson takes them. The young man is a tremendous player, one of the best to suit up for the Tigers, but he's still not being fully utilized. Because Pastner is so eager to prove he can coach at this level I think he's foolishly restraining Joe. When you have an experienced player as skilled as Jackson you need to trust him by putting the ball in his hands as much as possible. Let him decide who gets the ball, when, and where, instead of allowing so many different players to initiate or run the offense. The players should look for Joe anyime they get the ball off the backboard and he's in the game. The guy's so fast no one can stay in front of him and such a great free throw shooter that you have to make sure the ball's in his hands as much as possible, especially during crunch time.
Many college coaches are guilty of this: Holding great players back to get more credit for the success of the team. Remember, MJ was merely good, not great, under Dean Smith and his controlling of the game. By the same token there have been a slew of great NBA players who didn't distinguish themselves as great while in college. It's great players that will lead you to championships. You have to unleash them and let them play to their full potential.
Someone let me know when it's okay to hold Fuentes to the same standard we held Larry Porter to. The Tigers over the last two years have been no better than under Porter's tenure, and arguably worse. Where's the improvement? Looks like the same bunch of underachievers that have littered the program for the last decade or so.
Just asking because as soon as it's permissible to hold Fuentes responsible for the pitiful Tigers' showing this year I want to start with his boneheaded, idiotic decision to start Lynch over Kareem. That was lunacy. You don't replace an experienced quarterback who was playing well at the end of the season, and on a winning streak, for an untested freshman. Not unless he's a Jameis Winston or a Cam Newton, or some other phenom. Let the young man back up Kareem and learn how to play the position at the college level, and put him in if the starting quarterback struggles.
This boneheaded decision, in my opinion, was the death knell for the team this year, and Fuentes was just too stubborn to admit his mistake. When you have a team with few good players at the skill positions you just can't go with a freshman quarterback. Duh!!
I believe there are virtually no recruits for next year. Where DO we go from here?
How appropriate for the ill-prepared Tigers to crash and burn on Pearl Harbor Day! What a miserable performance. Justin's touching faith in Paxton Lynch was rewarded by his Chosen One playing (yet-another) stupid game. The guy has talent, but not a CLUE as to how to lead a team...
I have no idea of where Tiger football goes from here, except down the tubes! k
PS A tribute to how amazing this miserable day was. On this day-of-national-championship days, when there's lots of distractions, ESPN singled out five great performances. One of them, believe it or not, was Casey Cochran's record-setting achievements on behalf of UConn against our sorry excuse for a football team.
PPS Drop football, and solve the budget deficit at U of M. This is going nowhere, with or without Fuente.
PPPS I almost traveled to the game. Thanking my lucky stars i didn't!
I'm fairly new to Memphis but this is best team I've seen in my 6 years
Fuente needs to go program needs Togo.going nowhere with him.
That's not the same at all. Brooks was the interim coach. He replaced PJ Carlesimo, who was a horrible coach with a bad record. And Pat Riley stepped down and gave the job to Spoestra.
Joerger replaced Hollins, a good coach with a winning resume who wanted to stay on the job.
The situation in Denver is more like what happened here
Lumbering bigs, I like that . I wasn't that kind with my opinion of them (non running back bigs). You cant look at Gasol or Zach and tell by the way they are playing if they are 10 up or 10 down... I don't know if we can fix that but at least someone else sees the problem also.
There are some legitimate gripes there for sure. The only thing I'll say about the coach thing is that this league is not a coaches league. It's a players league.
You said...."they decided that a guy with no NBA coaching experience or no appeal around the league was the way to go." So basically they went the same route the Thunder and Heat did with Brooks and Spoelstra. Those two never were head coaches before they got their current posts. They were respectively handed the reins to teams that had legitimate superstars and title winning potential NOW without ever having held a head position before.
Whether or not you agree with either of those hires, the Joerger hire (and the lack of concern over experience and resume) clearly wasn't outside the norm for what a lot of other "win now" front offices have done in the recent past. The motivation behind that type of move? I don't know. I'm just stating that it isn't outside the norm right now apparently.
The FO traded a 1st round pick, our best backup big from a year ago (Speights), and our best 3 pt shooter (Ellington) for virtually nothing.
Then after trading Rudy for Davis, who they greatly overvalued, and an expiring contract (Calderone), they traded the expiring for the awful, over-the-hill Prince, who has a large, virtually untradable contract.
They signed the 30+ year old Tony Allen to a 4 year contract. They did the same for Qpon. And they drafted Franklin. They did all this even though these guys are all essentially the same player.
The traded Wroten, who is showing improvement in Philly, for nothing and decided against signing Mo Williams, who is having a nice season in Portland (9.3/4.5 off the bench). Instead, they signed a pg with no NBA experience (Catheles) and an outside shot that is completely broken.
And instead of retaining the best coach in franchise history (Hollins) or replacing him with an even better coach (Karl), they decided that a guy with no NBA coaching experience or no appeal around the league was the way to go.
Am I forgetting anything?
I had a very good view of the exchange between Goran Dragic and Jerryd Bayless, and it was not what Dragic said, but what he did- a deliberate shoulder slam into Bayless after play was stopped, that I believe is what earned him the technical there. Bayless may be scrappy, but it was definitely a physical provocation from Dragic that spurred the reaction from JB.
You forgot the addition by subtraction of the Rudy Gay trade. Yes, 7 of the 8 key players were here when this front office arrives, but I'm convinced this team doesn't get out of the first round last year with Gay still on the roster.
Conley's game hit a new level once Gay was gone and he was given freedom to run the show. That, and the ball went through the most efficient scorers, Gasol and Z-Bo, more often with Gay gone. Not to mention the fact that Gay's perimeter defense is a big weakness, and against a team like the Clippers with Crawford, Paul, and those knock down shooters everywhere, that would've been a liability.
To me, the front office has made two very good moves so far.
1) Jettisoning Gay. I think they maybe could've picked up a bit more for him in return, but just making that move was good.
2) Picking up Koufos. He's maybe the best back up center in the league. Of course for the next month plus he's a starter again, but he provides front court depth, which is nice.
They've made a lot of questionable moves too. As much as I disagreed with Hollins at times, and as much as I think Hollins was foolish for thinking he could keep his job without trying to work with his bosses, making that move was questionable. I think the front office, ideally wanted a 2 year deal for Hollins, and then they wanted to start a rebuild around Conley and Gasol with a new coach in 2 years, but it got started a bit earlier. Regardless of how it went down, it was a questionable move. Thinking Ed Davis would be a viable option, as this point, looks questionable too, though I'm willing to give that one a bit more time before competely writing him off.
They certainly haven't been perfect, but they haven't been all bad either.
seems like some moving of the goal post with joerger, even with gasol injury. this is what we heard prior to season regarding Dave Joerger:
--He's won multiple championships in the NBA D-League and the CBA (translation: he is a great coach and at least as good but probably better than previous coach)
--He's got clear winning credentials at the minor-league level, and he's been with the Grizzlies since 2007 as an assistant. (translation: he is a proven coach and since he has been with team, there should be no dropoff or transition period).
And in regards to the "small roster moves", i think we agree this was best roster in the grizzlies history with the addition of a knockdown shooter and a legitimate backup center. I think if you told lionel he was going to be without gasol for 2 months, but you will have mike miller and kousos koufos on bench, he would be like, "LET'S GO"
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