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Re: “All Hands On Deck

@nobody

I got your meaning all right.

Did you get mine?

What I do in private conversation and what an editor, who one presumes wants his readers to believe he is publishing the truth, does when publishing in a newspaper are entirely different things.

But perhaps you can explain the point, without hyperbole, that Bruce was trying to make by questioning Trump's mental stability?

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Posted by ArlingtonPop on 12/01/2016 at 6:07 PM

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"The data clearly shows that African-American males between the ages of 19 and 29 represent more than half of both the victims and perpetrators of our homicides"
How much more than half?

Posted by CL Mullins on 12/01/2016 at 6:01 PM

Re: “All Hands On Deck

APop,
With faith like yours most fruit tree farmers would be out of business.

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Posted by CL Mullins on 12/01/2016 at 5:57 PM

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Politicians would never say anything negative about anybody's children. Even drumpf wouldn't stoop that low. (well, unless the child was a fat woman). To do so would make them look like a monster.

Of course the entire Letter from the Editor is not hyperbole. But hyperbole was used to make a point. Have you never used hyperbole to make a point? Did you really not understand my meaning?

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Posted by nobody on 12/01/2016 at 5:50 PM

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@Clyde, Jill Stein has asked for a recount. NO republican has asked for a recount in CA. Have they asked? No. Why not? Since they don't believe there is any there. Have they sued? No. Why not? Since there's no merit.

Don't deflect, Republicans are saying there's no fraud - by doing nothing.

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Posted by datGuy on 12/01/2016 at 5:48 PM

Re: “All Hands On Deck

@nobody

The Letter from the Editor is hyperbole?

I didn't know that Bruce meant to be the case.

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Posted by ArlingtonPop on 12/01/2016 at 5:27 PM

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@CL

Chelsea seems to be a great young lady, so perhaps Hillary and Bill are pretty good parents.

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Posted by ArlingtonPop on 12/01/2016 at 5:23 PM

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@nobody

I was just following Hillary's lead on his children. Pardon my cynicism, but if Trump could have been attacked through his children, the Democrats would have had no hesitancy about doing so.Which leads me to believe they must be pretty good kids.

Actually, I would have been very happy if a Democrat had negotiated this agreement. But they didn't even try. I can't give you an answer on what will happen when the tax break runs out in 10 years. All I know is that 1000 working class people in Indiana are going have jobs and if Trump had not acted those jobs would be going to Mexico. And Obama would have let them go.

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Posted by ArlingtonPop on 12/01/2016 at 5:19 PM

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And, you're seriously giving drumpf props because he has good kids? What do you even know about his children? They are attractive and Ivanka gives good speeches and puts her name on pretty, overpriced clothes made in China.
I wonder if she'll bring her manufacturing to the US? Ha!

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Posted by nobody on 12/01/2016 at 4:43 PM

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I can't believe how much I'm seeing conservatives ballyhooing drumpf for saving 1,000 jobs for the hefty price tag of 7 mil. And 1,000 jobs are still going to Mexico. What's the incentive going to be when the 7 mil tax break runs out?
Can the people calling this a victory honestly say they would feel the same if it had been "negotiated" by a Democrat?

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Posted by nobody on 12/01/2016 at 4:40 PM

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Good god, people. Have you never heard of (or used) hyperbole. And, this is the Letter From the Editor. It's not a news article. Hyperbole, opinion, whatever, is perfectly acceptable.

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Posted by nobody on 12/01/2016 at 4:33 PM

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@Grove

I agree with the provision that trade must be more than free, it must be fair.

Which is the gist of Trump's complaints against the various trade agreements now in force. Is he right about that? I don't know. But he is surely in position to make the changes he wants.

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Posted by ArlingtonPop on 12/01/2016 at 4:08 PM

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APop,
Don't take parenting advise from a Clinton.
Ditto on the United Technologies thing.
I'm afraid the 35% tariff was faux populism like his baseball hat. Donald is way too much in debt to tick off corporate America, which is in debt to China.

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Posted by CL Mullins on 12/01/2016 at 4:05 PM

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@AP,

The irony here is that Trump's stance on keeping jobs in the US, to my knowledge, has been the type of stance a Democrat would usually take.

I'm personally a free trade person, and the type of things you have to do to keep jobs in the US typically end up limiting trade. That one does seem like something he's planning to keep as a focus area.

If he does, and if he's successful in keeping more blue collar work in the US, he's going to be very popular come 2020 when it comes time for re-election.

Of course, I think we'll have our next cyclical recession during his Presidency, and a lot of people will blame him for that, even though it'll just be our typical 8-10 year economic cycle at work. However, if the recession holds off longer than normal, to more like 12 years, and if he is successful in keeping jobs here, he's going to poll really well in states like Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, etc. in 2020 again.

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Posted by GroveReb84 on 12/01/2016 at 3:58 PM

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@CL

Oh, I would never make fun of Donald's children. I agree with Hillary that he should be proud of them.

I don't know all the terms of the negotiation settlement between Carrier and Trump, but since Carrier is owned by United Technologies, one of the largest defense contractors, the possibility of losing billions of dollars in defense business just might have been an incentive for Carrier to keep those jobs here and further incentive for them not to violate the terms of the negotiation. Besides, I think that $7 Million is in the form of tax incentives that will be granted over ten years, rather than in cash.

I did like the threat that Donald made a couple of months ago... Leave and build your products somewhere else if you must, but expect a 35% tariff on those items if you bring them back for sale in the US. I was thinking that might be plan that Congress could support, too. I would hate to be in Congress and defend a vote against it.

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Posted by ArlingtonPop on 12/01/2016 at 3:51 PM

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PS Clyde,
You do realize that Twitter quotes are Trumps not Maddows. I believe your next response should be, "nuh-uh"

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Posted by CL Mullins on 12/01/2016 at 3:32 PM

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APop,
Please don't make fun of Donald's children. As far as success in the business world. how many times has Fred Smith or Bill Gates or Warren Buffett gone bankrupt. (actually I don't know, but am guessing none)
Oak,
One of the lessons I leaned from Roy Acuff, esteemed Republican and Country Music Hall of Famer, is that you shouldn't wait for the train to hit the crossing before you start singing the blues.
et al,
What keeps Carrier from leaving with the money next year.
When I was a kid I was charged a $20 exit fee to get out of Mexico. How about a billion dollar exit fee for businesses seeking to leave the US. Or maybe just build a really big wall.

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Posted by CL Mullins on 12/01/2016 at 3:28 PM

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I don't agree with all of Trump's angles by any means, but he's certainly taking action.

He's already talked to members of Congress about a revised tax plan, hopes to get one on his desk in the first 90 days. He's already talked to them about the repeal and replacement of the ACA, plans to attack that immediately.

As noted, he already got involved in the Carrier deal and very publicly kept over 1000 jobs in the US, which fit along with some of the narrative he used to get elected. Also, note that right after the Carrier deal, China's heavily government driven news released an opinion peace saying how the US won't be able to bring jobs back from China.

What that signals is that China is very afraid after seeing that he actually took action, and they're trying to re-assure their citizens that all is well, when they very well might be in danger.

I think Trump has issues with narcissism, and I do think that a lot of his campaign rhetoric was just that, rhetoric. However, he seems hell-bent on taking action and doing so immediately. At the very least it's going to be interesting to watch, and I do at least look forward to having a slightly bigger paycheck after he lowers my taxes.

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Posted by GroveReb84 on 12/01/2016 at 3:09 PM

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The government is giving Carrier 7mil not to take their jobs elsewhere. The plants were making profit and payroll, but choose to screw American because investors want more profit for sitting on their ass. So Donald wants to give Carrier 7mil to a profitable company not to desert the Great Nation that gave it birth.
Obviously you Trump apologists hate free enterprise.
Trump is an icon for corporate socialism.

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Posted by Dayn Rand on 12/01/2016 at 3:09 PM

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Posted by Scott Banbury on 12/01/2016 at 2:41 PM

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