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Re: “The Death of Suburbia

Ammusing comments. African-American, living in a sizable home in South Memphis, purchased adjoining lots to expand perimeter, inexpensive purchases due to "undesirable demographics", Navy Federal Credit Union financed (local banks redlined). Within cycling distance of my job, easy commute for my spouse (West to East instead of the molasses of East to West). Savings on home allow for parochial and independent school educations. Our neighbors aren't threatening (I guess its a "Black thing"). All of our kids played club soccer. You don't have to spend money, if you're a middle class African-American, chasing someone elses version of the American dream. Pursue your dream on your terms.

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Posted by jrgolden on 03/17/2017 at 2:14 PM

Re: “The Death of Suburbia

@Funk

You can always spot trolls. They show themselves by the inability to have a meaningful or civil conversation. On the contrary, their posts are full of gratuitous insults and name calling.

In other words, a lot of smoke and heat with little substance.

Thanks for the supposition on my housing situation, but I confess to living in a cardboard box at Arlington Depot Square. Its all i can do after hard day of panhandling to drag myself down to the liquor store for my daily ration of Thunderbird.

Life in the 'burbs is hell, you know.

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Posted by ArlingtonPop on 03/17/2017 at 1:59 PM

Re: “The Death of Suburbia

Abdominable (undoubtedly "deplorable" too): a refrigerator box just about anywhere would still be better than the vapid, insipid, vacuous neighborhood you undoubtedly live in, and are perfectly suited for. Tell you (and your fellow outlander, AP) what: stick to Breitbart, FoxNews and InfoWars (StormFront, maybe), and leave the Flyer's site to folks equipped with the grey matter to understand it.

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Posted by moverhill on 03/17/2017 at 1:48 PM

Re: “The Death of Suburbia

I don't know Apop, I always assumed your house was pretty nice.

Or do you mean a different resident troll?

I think the fact the Memphis Flyer has Memphis in the name should be a hint towards their target audience.

Then again, I should probably defer to your expertise considering who is a troll and who isn't; you would certainly know from an inside perspective.

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Posted by FUNKbrs on 03/17/2017 at 12:59 PM

Re: “The Death of Suburbia

@Funk

The Flyer's circulation and readership are confined to the city of Memphis?

I did not know that.

Yes, lots of mansions in Memphis, which by no means indicates that our resident troll occupies one of them.

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Posted by ArlingtonPop on 03/17/2017 at 12:49 PM

Re: “The Death of Suburbia

It's a little hard to reconcile your claims of housing grandeur with your feeling that a $5 parking fee is "gouging" - but I'm sure you've got the nicest refrigerator box under whatever overpass you call home.

The offer for a suburb-funded zoo trip still stands, though, if you ever want to escape the refrigerator box for an afternoon!

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Posted by TheAbominableDavid on 03/17/2017 at 12:46 PM

Re: “The Death of Suburbia

My experience is that anytime someone comes on a city paper's comments section and they don't live in that city, they're just there to troll.

Lots of mansions in Memphis, if you bother to look for them.

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Posted by FUNKbrs on 03/17/2017 at 12:34 PM

Re: “The Death of Suburbia

@Abdominable

My experience is that anytime someone comes on a message board and responds to you about their wealth, and how they live in a high-dollar house ( higher than yours, they suspect), they generally don't.

Especially when such a statement is followed up by an insult both childish and trollish, which is not very original and particularly tiresome as well.

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Posted by ArlingtonPop on 03/17/2017 at 11:37 AM

Re: “The Death of Suburbia

Abdominable: Not being able to afford living in the suburbs? That's too funny. Yeah, I guess I'll just have to content myself with living in my high-dollar (a lot higher than yours, I suspect) house (shh, don't tell the Assessor) in the most desirable neighborhood in Memphis, instead of in one of the plastic, soulless, cookie-cutter houses you Stepfordites live in.

As for "trolling," that is the comment forum version of "fake news," i.e. anything the comment forum hot shots don't want to hear qualifies as "trolling." Oh, and Mia: your comments are, more often than not, a shanda fur die goy. Kish mir en tuches!

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Posted by moverhill on 03/17/2017 at 11:01 AM

Re: “The Death of Suburbia

@King David,

Can you really blame FedEx, HP, or anyone else?

When you've got a bunch of professional positions that pay enough to live the suburban lifestyle, but don't pay enough to afford expensive private education, you are going to want to locate near wherever the neighborhoods are that your work force is going to want to live.

It helps with recruiting to be able to advertise the proximity, being close to the most desirable public schools.

We can discuss the reasons why that is, but you can't really blame a corporation for recognizing reality and trying to position themselves best to cope with that reality.

Posted by GroveReb84 on 03/17/2017 at 10:27 AM

Re: “The Death of Suburbia

New troll has arrived in the comments section (moverhill)? I'm not sure if that's sincere or major league trolling. If the former, then you're either still in school or freshly graduated and know all there is to know. If the latter, well done indeed sir or madam!

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Posted by Smitty1961 on 03/17/2017 at 9:39 AM

Re: “Against Vouchers for Shelby County

@Grove

Supposedly, making this only a "pilot program" gets around that issue.

I presume that is true, otherwise we would have heard otherwise.

I did notice with great interest that Mark Norris said yesterday the voucher bill is "problematic". What that means is not exactly clear, but another thing I have noticed is that Governor Haslam has not been supportive of vouchers this session.

Posted by ArlingtonPop on 03/17/2017 at 9:33 AM

Re: “Against Vouchers for Shelby County

I can't see how this one would pass constitutional muster, especially with it narrowly tailored to one district like that. Didn't the state learn back during the school merger issue that they couldn't write legislation to apply to only one or two counties?

Posted by GroveReb84 on 03/17/2017 at 8:47 AM

Re: “The Death of Suburbia

King David, white flight occurred before busing as well although the 70s version was more impactful. And never discount shady real estate shenanigans (how's that for St Paddy's)

moverhill, faux progressivism, is a kind of progressivism. I think your skinny pants are cutting the blood supply to where your head is lodged.

TheAbominableDavid, please stay off our meadow unless moverhill is sunbathing.

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Posted by Mia S Kite on 03/17/2017 at 7:54 AM

Re: “The Death of Suburbia

The fact that you think of that price as gouging goes a long way to explaining why you're so defensive about not being able to afford living in the suburbs.

If you'd like financial assistance to make a trip to the zoo, I'm sure a few of us would be glad to take up a collection for you.

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Posted by TheAbominableDavid on 03/17/2017 at 7:11 AM

Re: “The Death of Suburbia

Abominable: Please do come park on the greensward. We love gouging rubes like you for that privilege. You do know, I hope, that you'll likely be encountering some of those folks you fled to Stepford to escape. Oh, and CL: a few more hits on that fatty ought to chill you out just fine.

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Posted by moverhill on 03/17/2017 at 12:29 AM

Re: “The Death of Suburbia

Court ordered busing in the 70's started white flight and they're still flying. Not surprisingly, we have black flight as well. I suppose for most families its always going to be about schools first. And, racism. As the blacks move east and south the whites move more east and more south. I wonder why FedEx and HP aren't based in the downtown area? I also often think what Memphis would be like today without that busing order?

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Posted by King David on 03/16/2017 at 9:15 PM

Re: “The Death of Suburbia

I'll be sure to think about you the next time I park on the greensward, Moverhill.

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Posted by TheAbominableDavid on 03/16/2017 at 9:14 PM

Re: “Against Vouchers for Shelby County

@dat

Mate is correct.

This bill only applies to Shelby County Schools.

Posted by ArlingtonPop on 03/16/2017 at 8:32 PM

Re: “Against Vouchers for Shelby County

Well, I could post the Supreme Court test, couldn't I ?

Here it is:

Under the Private Choice Test developed by the court, for a voucher program to be constitutional it must meet all of the following criteria:

The program must have a valid secular purpose.
Aid must go to parents and not to the schools.
A broad class of beneficiaries must be covered.
The program must be neutral with respect to religion.
There must be adequate nonreligious options.

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Posted by ArlingtonPop on 03/16/2017 at 8:30 PM

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