Actually what I'm saying is that health care should be provided, not health insurance. You want to free young people from the burden of health insurance? Get rid of insurance altogether, and with it doctor bills and hospital bills, and spread the burden fairly across all segments of society with an income tax that has no exemptions and no caps and taxes all income whether payroll or investment.
That's what I'm saying.
I would also like a sail boat and a house on the beach. That ain't happening because thats SOCIALISM, so what we got is a weekend in Florida on an inflatable raft, and Obamacare.
So your argument is that health insurance should be a requirement for you to live, just like car insurance is a requirement (or is supposed to be) for you to drive?
The only problem with that is that I can choose not to drive. I can choose to ride the bus, ride a bike, or walk everywhere. I can't choose whether or not I exist (I guess unless you want to argue I could kill myself).
I don't think health insurance should be a requirement.
However, if it's going to be, the problem I have with the law is that the people that get hit the hardest with the new structure are the young and healthy (also the least likely to have expendable income), and also a big part of the group that helps drive the economy.
The Millenials as a generation are already falling behind the 8 ball with the sluggish economy and the fact that household income is sitting at the same levels it was 30 years ago when you adjust for inflation, but all of your major costs aren't at 1980s levels even after inflation adjustment.
It's great in concept to propose a plan for everyone to have access to affordable health insurance. My question always was who was going to pay for it. The structure of the law puts a lot of that new burden on the young and healthy, not the old and wealthy.
Yes Grove, and us safe drivers are paying for the accidents of all the idiots out there. That's how insurance works.
grovereb, thanks for explaining insurance for us.
I have always believed him to be a better actor than stand-up comedian; his stand-up was just always a bit too manic for my taste. RIP, Mr. Williams.
I am recalling Bob Dole's boner ads. Are politics just a stepping stone to Madison Ave?
I'm not sure, but Joe Brown may have finally found his niche. Just saw on Nashville TV a commercial for a personal injury law firm, and their pitch man...you guessed it, "Judge Joe Brown". I think the name of the firm is Hughes and Coleman. Is he doing any commercials on Memphis TV?
Y'all do understand that an investment is something that pays off in the future. Of course the ACA is half-assed reform, and more of a ploy to further enrich Obama's yankee capitalist friends. It, like all insurance, is a pyramid scheme. But take away the profiteering and it just might work, kinda.
It's not a good investment for you IF YOU HAVE A JOB. if you don't, and someone else is picking up the tab, well, then, it's GREAT!
Now that that's out of the way, the only problem I have with the ACA is that I believe it largely puts the burden of paying for the uninsured on the young and healthy.
If I'm 29, single, and in general good health, health insurance is a bad investment for me.
In fact, when I got my first job, I opted for the least insurance they would allow me to get through the company, because I had no need for it, and my odds of having a need for it were low enough that the gamble was smart. It wasn't until I got married and started having kids that I needed to switch to a stronger plan with real coverage.
Now, to my understanding, the ACA requires everyone to either acquire insurance or pay a penalty. If I'm the healthy, young chap I described above, I am the one most likely to be forced to pay a penalty or buy something I wouldn't have bought otherwise, in order to help out the calculus for the general public. However, I'm also the least likely to be able to afford it. I've probably got student loans. I'm not near my peak earning years yet. I'm most likely living paycheck to paycheck as it is. Now I have to purchase something I didn't have in my budget? Where does that money come from? If I'm not getting 100% paid for by subsidy, then something I don't have already is coming out of my pocket.
That's my problem with the set up. The concept requires the young and healthy that don't have insurance to join the insurance roles to help spread the risk. We aren't talking about a tax on the 1%. It's a tax on the middle class and the next up and coming generation. That's my big problem with the system. You know someone has to pay for it. That's one of the groups that's paying for it, and it's not a group that you generally want to have to ask to pay for something. You typically want your up and coming consumers to have as much leeway in getting started as possible. You want them to have the least burden possible while they're getting their start.
Just remember this, if you want to pass a bill that affects every American, you just might want it to be passed with support from both sides. Isn't it funny that Dems are crying about Repubs confronting this bill at every turn when they didn't notice or care that the Repubs were shut out at every turn on their suggestions to be included in the law.
Wrong, but a much better answer than what I had in mind. So...
CL.. That code is self-evident, athough a bit obscure today. Usage was much more pronounced in the mid 1970's.
The correct phrasing is (Get a) thrill, kill (a) dry cleaner. Given that the code is 40 years old, you are excused for the mistake.
These racial code words are a reference to George Jefferson, who made his fortune in the dry cleaning business. Poor whites were incited to violence just contemplating that any black man could dare to become rich, much less an uppity black man like George Jefferson. To make matters worse, one of his wife's black girlfriends was reputed to be married to a white man!
For those reasons, this particular phrase was used by violent racists as a code word signaling attacks on successful black entrepreneurs.
The code supposedly fell out of favor among racists when a coordinated attack was made in Pittsburg, Pennsylvnia on March 15, 1976 by three skinheads. The attack targeted a local, black-owned Jaguar dealership.
Unknown to the attackers, The dealership owner's brother, Mean Joe Green, was in the bathroom taking a leak when the attack commenced.
Hearing the commotion, he came rushing out and it got ugly. The last skinhead out of the hospital, Bubba Ray Jones, walked with a decided limp the rest of his life, supposedly from the effects of Mean Joe literally kicking his butt through the dealerships' plate glass window. It is though that the necessity of an implanted steel plate in his head was a major factor in Jones' inabilty to ever again get meaningful employment. Jones passed away in 2009 after serving many years as an advisor to the Shelby Couty Democratic Party.
Let me try to warm up here..
Thrill killing dry cleaner?
Anybody got any code words that need deciphering?
I'll take that as a compliment.
Richard, you've learned to paragraph!
With all due respect Mr. Baker, I can't wait to hear you explain how you and the Flyer shamefully failed to investigate and report on activities of elected officials which clearly constitute conflicts with the public's interests and breaches of the public trust. And, how you and the Flyer misled voters by choosing instead to bolster and give credence to misleading propaganda such as the bogus MBA “qualifications poll’ and reported on the election as though it was a “soap opera” instead of a very important opportunity for voters to get informed and choose wisely.
Instead, you and the Flyer chose to discredit the Democratic Party and good faith candidates of any stripe who dared to challenge incumbents who have and will no doubt continue to breach the public trust for 8 more years, and purposely misled voters in order to preserve the corrupt status quo; all while cleverly disguised as a popular progressive news source. What a bad joke to play on your readers.
Spare us the post mortem report from the doctor whose errors and omissions regrettably contributed to the death of the patient in the first place. No doubt you all meant well, right?
Many different factors will play out in the future, which I hope you will explore. Changing demographics, the rise of "the city" in Tennessee and the fact that our cities are blue, racism directed towards our president and its effects on Democrats will subside when he leaves office - yes our state will remain hostage to right wing nutjobs for the foreseeable future but as the national Tea Party movement becomes less corporate friendly how long will FedEx and IP fund our current slate of Republicans if they also stay from their corporate funders?
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