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Re: “Nashville’s Silly Season

Barf,

That's right, I wrote that christianity doesn't do that. Since you clearly do not appear to know that "doesn't" is present tense I've decided to clarify that for you here.

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Posted by Bric-a-Brac on 02/17/2017 at 5:02 PM

Re: “Nashville’s Silly Season

Mia,

You are so TOTALLY clueless, which isn't funny. Can you tell me anything at all about those church bombings in Tennessee? I might have missed the news reports.

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Posted by Bric-a-Brac on 02/17/2017 at 5:00 PM

Re: “Nashville’s Silly Season

Bric,
Regarding "What is your point?" You said: "Christianity doesn't do that". I simply pointed out that Christianity has and continues to exhibit its own instances equal to "convert, pay jizya, or be killed".
While my personal religious beliefs are those of a conservative christian, I do not ignore actions committed in the name of Christianity by professed christians.

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Posted by barf on 02/17/2017 at 3:42 PM

Re: “Marketing Fear

Steve,
Thank you for expressing so clearly this viewpoint which I happen to share. I would really like to restore MPD's benefits along with a pay raise in excess of any reduction made over the last several years. However, the MPA's tactics make my support for such actions impossible. They are actively undermining the very investments and tax base that would fund such benefits which in turn makes it even more difficult for city hall to provide additional financial support.

Even if the MPA were correct (which they are not) in directly correlating the # of cops with the city's crime rate, their message still undermines their goal. When MPD pay and benefits were at a level being sought by the MPA, Memphis was still saddled with one of the (at times THE) highest violent crime rates in the nation. Saying I have a choice between paying more or less, yet this city will still be one of the most violent places in the US is hardly a convincing argument.

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Posted by barf on 02/17/2017 at 3:27 PM

Re: “Marketing Fear

The bottom line here is Mike Williams is and always has been a joke as president of the MPA. He was a joke when he ran for city mayor. Not only is it stupid but foolish to erect billboards with this message. Basically they're telling the tourists to stay out of Memphis. Tourism happens to be one of the major revenue generators for the city. If the tourists decide to not continue coming to the city then guess what MPA?? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know the answer. Again, Mike Williams is a joke and the members of the MPA should get rid of him immediately.

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Posted by BigTime21 on 02/17/2017 at 2:36 PM

Re: “Nashville’s Silly Season

"I don't care." "Total bullshit."
Someone's been watching Presidential news conferences. Cute in its own way.

Mullins, TN culture warriors are more prone to plant the bomb at the church and run off before they singe their sheets.

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Posted by Mia S Kite on 02/17/2017 at 2:34 PM

Re: “Nashville’s Silly Season

CL,

Total bullshit.

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Posted by Bric-a-Brac on 02/17/2017 at 2:21 PM

Re: “Nashville’s Silly Season

Mia,

I don't care. But, while we are at it, what's the difference between Sha'iyah, Hujjatiya, and Bada'iyah?

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Posted by Bric-a-Brac on 02/17/2017 at 2:19 PM

Re: “Nashville’s Silly Season

barf,
Give Sharia a Christian name and plenty of good Tennesseans would be strapping on bomb vests for the greater glory of Jesus.

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Posted by CL Mullins on 02/17/2017 at 2:13 PM

Re: “Nashville’s Silly Season

Bricabrac, what's the difference between Southern Baptists, Quakers, and Seventh Day Adventists?

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Posted by Mia S Kite on 02/17/2017 at 1:50 PM

Re: “Nashville’s Silly Season

barf,

Historically? Hell, historically speaking there are horrors upon horrors across all of humanity in a never ending stream until recently. Is that supposed to make us all guilty of everything? Is that supposed to excuse any behavior or belief for all people everywhere for all time? Are you saying that we should bring back the draw and quarter because, heck, we did it before? What is your point?

Where in the US today does anyone have to pay a government tax based on religious belief?

Where in the US today does anyone have to convert or die because the law says so?

Are you intending to say that we should all convert or be killed?

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Posted by Bric-a-Brac on 02/17/2017 at 12:26 PM

Re: “Nashville’s Silly Season

But historically, Christianity has enforced those same 3 basics time and time again.

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Posted by barf on 02/17/2017 at 11:13 AM

Re: “Nashville’s Silly Season

Sharia would demand three things (for starters) of all persons, either convert, pay jizya, or be killed. Christianity doesn't do that.

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Posted by Bric-a-Brac on 02/17/2017 at 10:23 AM

Re: “Nashville’s Silly Season

@ Apop

I personally feel that the freedom of a society is inversely proportional to the level of involuntary compliance demanded by it.

The path to state religion is paved with religious laws. How is our governance superior to Sharia if it shares the same basis?

I spent 2/3's of my life studying christianity, first pentecostal and then southern baptist. It was working in the church behind the scenes that finally killed my faith.

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Posted by FUNKbrs on 02/17/2017 at 8:28 AM

Re: “Nashville’s Silly Season

Back to reality. What meaningful, productive legislation has the state legislature accomplished in the past three years? Culture warrior stuff doesn't count.

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Posted by jrgolden on 02/17/2017 at 3:01 AM

Re: “Nashville’s Silly Season

@Funk

I don't agree with anything much you say, including your latest, and my personal faith is none of your business.

Neither did I doubt the veracity of the biblical account of the relationship between the Jews and the Roman empire. I only stated it was not the the typical relationship between the Empire and its conquered territories. The vast majority of the conquered territories knew full well what was going to happen if they did not comply, so they did so.

Thanks for the biblical quote, but I cannot understand its relationship to the issue we are discussing.
As I stated quite clearly, the ceremonies required by the Romans to deify the Emperor were only an act of civil obedience in nature and, what is most important, were recognized as such at the time by both parties.

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Posted by ArlingtonPop on 02/16/2017 at 4:23 PM

Re: “Nashville’s Silly Season

@CL

Yeah, what an asshole.

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Posted by ArlingtonPop on 02/16/2017 at 4:15 PM

Re: “Nashville’s Silly Season

@APOP

So you agree with all my supporting facts, but not my tone?

Pointing out that forced (although only vainly) religious compliance was factually used by the Romans predating Christianity, and then doubled down after the conversion to Christianity as a State religion only seems to reinforce my argument.

Also, the fact that you yourself doubt the veracity of the Biblical account of the Romans seems to agree with my points as well.

If you are a practicing Christian, you know that the Bible proscribes denials of faith

https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Matt…

"32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.

33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword."

Are you, by chance, a practicing Christian?

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Posted by FUNKbrs on 02/16/2017 at 3:51 PM

Re: “Nashville’s Silly Season

APop,
Don't get me started on the Emperor Constantine.

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Posted by CL Mullins on 02/16/2017 at 3:23 PM

Re: “Nashville’s Silly Season

@FUN

It would be of great benefit to your credibility if you at least knew something about what you post. Imperial Rome did not use religion to subjugate their colonies. Imperial Rome did not much care one way or another what religions their colonies practiced as long as those colonies did three things: keep order, pay their taxes and do ritualistic lip service to the Emperor's deity. That last requirement was civic in nature, not to be taken seriously as a religious act and everybody knew it. The expansionist and colonization phase of Roman rule was long past when Constantine adopted Christianity as the state region in the 4th Century AD. The biblical account of Roman rule in Judea cannot be taken as representative of the empire since the Jews were not willing to do any of those three things. Jews were the exception and payed a high price for their failure to submit.

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Posted by ArlingtonPop on 02/16/2017 at 2:42 PM

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