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Re: “Against Vouchers for Shelby County

datGuy, the address on the senate web site is his legal office which is located in the historic Collierville town square. He lives somewhere in Germantown last I heard. I also live in the district.

Mate, Germantown Elementary, Middle and HS are Shelby County schools. Houston HS and middle and the other elementary schools are Germantown schools.

Posted by LoveBC on 03/22/2017 at 9:05 PM

Re: “The Death of Suburbia

It was a gift from someone that is as hardcore a Marxist as they come. Bought on the cheep as a discard from a library and given to me in love as a token of acknowledgement of my love of knowledge gained via reading.

The greatest gift.

Posted by Bric-a-Brac on 03/22/2017 at 5:45 PM

Re: “The Death of Suburbia

Bricabrac, Wow that's some kind of hoard you have there.

Posted by Nick R on 03/22/2017 at 5:16 PM

Re: “The Death of Suburbia

Careful, Bric, lest the suburban trolls deem you a wrong-headed troll because your opinions don't match theirs.

I see, BTW, that at least one suburb that owes its continued viability to discriminating against a minority is getting push-back for its discrimination against another minority. I speak of the uprising by the parents of girls who are exercised about Collierville spending more on boys' sports than on girls', in apparent violation of Title IX. I'm shocked, shocked, I tell you, to see discrimination in Collierville. My guess is the same kind of discrimination is practiced in the rest of the lily-white outposts as well.

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Posted by moverhill on 03/22/2017 at 4:14 PM

Re: “The Death of Suburbia

Yes nick, I do have access to a dictionary as well. I understand that you see my knowledge as threatening.

I also have a copy of Fortune magazine from 1935 that has an article in it regarding housing. The article states that building houses is a great way to support heavy industry and an economy.

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Posted by Bric-a-Brac on 03/22/2017 at 3:06 PM

Re: “The Death of Suburbia

Bricabrac, Wow that's some kind of dictionary you have there.

Posted by Nick R on 03/22/2017 at 2:22 PM

Re: “The Death of Suburbia


Perspective? sure. Right. Historical knowledge is a perspective. Informed perspective.

Posted by Bric-a-Brac on 03/22/2017 at 1:55 PM

Re: “The Death of Suburbia

Bricabrac, Wow that's some kind of perspective you have there.

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Posted by Nick R on 03/22/2017 at 1:44 PM

Re: “The Death of Suburbia


You wrote: Surburbia being a good place to raise kids is predicated on two premises:

1: Schooling takes place outside of the home
2: Play takes place outside of the home

Actually, no. Not even close. Suburbia has existed since ancient Rome, and will be with us forevermore despite your fantasies that appear to be inspired by "Logan's Run".

(The first use of the term in English was in 1380 AD)

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Posted by Bric-a-Brac on 03/22/2017 at 12:49 PM

Re: “The Death of Suburbia


I wouldn't start the victory lap just yet. Like I said, the Millennials will tell the tale. If an urban exodus starts to trickle out in the next decade, you'll know they're no different from previous generations.

Time will tell the tale, and I think it'll be pretty clear. Either the Millennials will drive a change in the traditional lifestyle pattern, which will lead to continued urbanization, or they'll follow the pattern of previous generations, and we'll see a boom coming to suburbs nationwide over the next decade.

I'm a fringe Millennial myself, right between Gen X and the Millennial generation, and all of my friends that started out in East Memphis, Midtown, or Downtown have all migrated out to the suburbs, with the exception of those that can and/or are willing to pay for private school.

Posted by GroveReb84 on 03/21/2017 at 1:55 PM

Re: “The Death of Suburbia

Surburbia being a good place to raise kids is predicated on two premises:

1: Schooling takes place outside of the home
2: Play takes place outside of the home

Once you stop leaving the house, it really doesn't matter where that house is. Kids don't really play in the street anymore; they play video games. You don't have to go to a school or library to research anymore; all of that is available online.

If you aren't going outside, it really doesn't matter what outside looks like. It doesn't matter who your neighbors are if you never meet them.

Internet connectivity is rendering neighborhood organization moot. The only reason not to homeschool children at this point is because kids need to be socialized. All the actual lessons could easily be put up on youtube, and online testing would be easier than the traditional paper sort.

As much as there USED to be a generational cycle of urban and suburban periods in people's lives, that cycle is clearly over now. Older people have to move to the cities for proximity to healthcare. Back in the "good" old days they used to just die. If the very young and very old are both living in cities, suburbs just aren't going to have the critical mass they once did to survive.

It's over. Suburbs were always stupid, and now they're over, and we're all better off for it.

Posted by FUNKbrs on 03/21/2017 at 1:07 PM

Re: “The Death of Suburbia

Suburbs and exurbs are less desirable when transportation becomes more expensive. As long as viable transit to the business core is cheap, people will exchange a commute for more local control of their lifestyle. That will not change for the Millenials. What IS changing, is what local control means in those peripheral areas. Bike paths and soccer complexes seem to be out-competing golf courses and baseball fields.

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Posted by OakTree on 03/21/2017 at 12:58 PM

Re: “The Death of Suburbia

Grove Reb: Without a doubt millennials will move to suburbia once they start getting married, since they are really no different than us ( I am at the tail end of the baby boomer generation). I used to be a midtownian back when I was single, but eventually I grew up (to my parents delight), moved out east, got married, got dogs, reproduced, and started buying expensive, but poorly performing, lawn equipment.

With that said, I am glad the millennials are putting life back into the classic down town buildings and giving downtown Memphis a cool vibe. After the millennials/creative class move to the 'burbs, the next generation will occupy the millennial haunts.

Posted by LoveBC on 03/20/2017 at 8:57 PM

Re: “Trumpcare?

So Trump lied again, this is not surprising

The tragedy is millions of American seniors and tens of millions of future seniors are having their healthcare put at risk by the wealthiest zealots and selfish Americans

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Posted by datGuy on 03/20/2017 at 6:50 PM

Re: “The Death of Suburbia

Agreed CL. The entire market would shift if that's the direction the Millennials drive it.

That's what's fascinating to me. For how much people love to rag on the Millennials, they're really the new Boomers, except maybe even a larger generation. They're going to be driving economic forces as they age, similar to how Boomers have done for so long.

If this whole push for vouchers happens, and those get spread to a broad group of citizens, that could be your new school model that crops up for the group of young professional Millennial parents. It'll be fascinating to watch.

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Posted by GroveReb84 on 03/20/2017 at 1:10 PM

Re: “The Death of Suburbia


Trolls and the rest of the trollite diaspora have a single orifice for both mouth and anus, similar to a jelly fish. Trollkin are those who have not surgically made this physical transition, but internally identify as trolls.

Obviously I have not made my full surgical transition from trollkin to Troll as I still have separate orifices for communication and defecation, but I hope to one day combine the two.

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Posted by FUNKbrs on 03/20/2017 at 1:01 PM

Re: “The Death of Suburbia

Assuming no apocalypse, should Millennial say put, we should see schools catering to their progeny cropping up.
Changes afoot for this generation won't mimic ours, job sites alone should be quite different for those affording the new urban lifestyle. The won't have to shell out for lawn equipment of machines. Of course if Trump has his way, they will be paying $50 an hour for nannies. As it should be.

If you want to be a true troll, you'll have to start drinking alone a lot more.

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Posted by CL Mullins on 03/20/2017 at 1:00 PM

Re: “The Death of Suburbia


I never take things back. Never, never, never!

I refuse to call you a troll no matter how you identify.

I am curious, though.

Do trollkin pee in the same bathrooms as trolls?

Seems to me we need a law to clarify where trolls can pee.

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Posted by ArlingtonPop on 03/20/2017 at 11:49 AM

Re: “The Death of Suburbia

Back on the original topic, I still stand by my point that I'll be interested to see if the Millennial generation really does stay in the city centers once most of them start having kids that reach school age.

I still contend that the urban shift we've seen might very well be simply a product of the Millennial generation being such a large generation, and the fact that it's a generation that's currently in the stage of life where most of them want to live close to the action...and it's a generation that's waiting later to have children, which widens the window of time when they would want to live near the action.

If 10-15 years from now, that urban shift has sustained, we'll know it's a product of the new generation having a different view about urban/suburban living. If they follow traditional patterns, we'll see a massive suburban shift over the next decade as they start reproducing and having those children grow to school age.

Generational differences and trends are a fascinating topic to me, so I'll be following this one closely. Of course, I'll also be following it closely, as it'll have an impact on the value of my home investment.

Zillow estimates that my home is currently worth about 11% more than I paid for it back in 2010. That's only about a 1.5% CAGR over that period. That's a little bit slower than the national average, but it's slightly ahead of the average home price growth for the city of Memphis during that period. If the trend holds for urban shift, my return will grow slower. If a strong suburban shift comes in the next decade, my value will accelerate.

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Posted by GroveReb84 on 03/20/2017 at 10:50 AM

Re: “The Death of Suburbia


You take that back.

I'll have you know I proudly identify as trollkin. How dare you assume my online ethnicity.

I'm offended.

Posted by FUNKbrs on 03/20/2017 at 8:52 AM

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