Correct me if I am wrong, but Mancini wanted to let Carson off with basically a slap on the wrist, and the local executive committee wanted a stiffer penalty? Therefore, the solution by Mancini and the state executive committee - which Carson and his mom are members - was to decertify the local party?
Another question, was this decertification put to a vote by the state executive committee? If so, did Carson and his mother vote on the matter?
Finally, so what happens to Carson now? Does he receive any penalty?
Stumbled across this and thought it was awesome. I want a Stevie Ray Vaughn story.
Pity comments from Oak and CL and I totally agree with both of them.
As Southerners of a certain age, we have an understanding of being part of a culture which we love and is in part horribly wrong. Our experience could have much to teach the peoples of Canaan, and our experience suggests no one wants to listen.
Congratulations to my two deserving friends. Trip to Bountiful was a great experience indeed.
I think we can all agree that any philosophy or ethical framework which seeks to justify the horrible treatment of other human beings, whether it is religious or otherwise, is fundamentally wanting in some way, shape, or form.
I posted that link, because it talks about intersectionality: the weirdness that happens when two or more cultures that take identity very seriously cross wires. As we see in this case, it isn't as simple as one might think. The complex of allegiances and loyalties which we find ourselves enmeshed within in our multicultural world, lead to significant cognitive dissonances, and these may not easily be resolved by those who are caught in them.
In any event, although I abhor the contemporary mistreatment of the Palestinians by the powers that be in Israel, I am not inclined to pillory Ms. Samuels for her pilgrimage to the epicenter of her cultural roots. In fact, I think it behooves all of us to understand both the good and the bad parts of the cultures from whence we come. Because they all have parts of their history which are, frankly, ghastly.
Oh my... Interesting article, Oak.
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Sorry about being so strident. But the families being dispossessed, assaulted and murdered by our Israeli agents came from a relatively liberal culture at least before the Western powers pushed them into the hands of extremists, extremists who were nurtured by Western oil interests to overthrow democratic states and movements across the Mid East.
These two are inspiring examples for all artists every where.
The treatment of homosexuals is a measuring stick. To me, it's a measuring stick of civilization. To the uncivilized, it's a measuring stick of moral decay.
The treatment of women is another measuring stick. Why do America's liberals leap to the defense of people who drape women in burkas or headscarves?
Yes, the seizure of land for Jewish settlements is a horrible thing, driven by an uncivilized and deluded religious viewpoint. But since I live thousands of miles away, I'll avoid letting anger tip the scales of my judgment to favor anarchy and medievalism. What I think matters nothing anyway, except as a curiosity on a messageboard.
If there were no gays in the Middle East, you wouldn't give a rats ass. Just like the West, if there were no oil.
Yes, OakTree, it was interesting. He lives in Tel Aviv, and his former boyfriend is Jewish, and it sounds like his life isn't all that bad. It also sounds like Jewish and Palestinian gay men get along fairly well in Israel. So civilization scores a point in Israel, more so than in the surrounding region.
If she plans to make her home Israel, I hope she will be happy there. I also hope she renounces her American citizenship. Dual citizenship is akin to serving two masters--presents an inherent conflict of interest, IMO.
I never understand these "owner surrenders." Wish I could adopt them all.
Do you know what is going on in Palestine? Even gay sex comes up short when a bulldozer is plowing thru your house.
Just another example of dogs' loyalty to man. Chile Pepper loves Johnny Poppa even if he lives in a fantasy. Keep the treats coming and be sure to take me everywhere you go.
Jason Miles is gone?!
When a cancer gets big enough, it eventually overwhelms the body as a whole, killing it. This applies as much to the body politic as it does to the human body. Mancini did the right thing.
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