How long has the dairy been at the present location?
@FUNKbrs, no but I will take partial credit for the food you eat. And the ethanol in your gas. We all depend on each other in this world but without farmers you don't eat.
I think Loeb dost protest too much.
Are we really gonna fall for this "I'm not saying I want this, I'm just saying it's super convenient for me for it to happen and I'll make a lot of money if it does" line?
Loeb looks like a man trying to hook up with a married woman here, openly denying his interest in hopes of getting an offer. Sickening.
This is one of the few times I'd like to see the Republican leadership thumb their nose at the vegan hipsters who are offended by a dairy that supplies the city's children with milk.
Long live the Dairy, may they one day expand over all Overton Square and bless us all with cheap milk products.
Did you just take credit for there being oxygen in the air?
You gonna take credit for sunlight too?
Lol Nick R. Yes I'm "from" Arkansas. The farm is in AR but I live in the city. There's plenty of guys that own and run farms in AR and live in Memphis or GTown. Since you are so well educated you would know that communism and agriculture don't mix well.
Oh, we've planted almost 300 acres of trees in the last 10 years. Enjoy the oxygen at our expense. Communism at its finest.
farmer guy, As "a rice farmer from Arkansas" that would pretty much rule you out as a resident. And since you don't believe in local control and governance and as a disbeliever that a postage stamp sized piece of land is not worth fighting over, I "assume" you have never been to Bunker Hill. Put this all together and, no assumption necessary, you are a communist. Or have been huffing too heavily on the pesticide. Either way comrade, tell your man Putin to stay out of Memphis.
@lovebc, sure there is ways to pay high wages to employees in the food biz. Same as farming. Make me money and I'll make sure you make more than average. There's unimaginable ways to cost a farmer money but if the employees are good and cautious at what they do and don't break equipment and cost me money they see their rewards every paycheck.
I've been a return customer to many restaurants because of how the waiter took care of us. Wimpys isn't McD's though. It's a step above and the pay and clientele should reflect that. Minimum wage food service jobs are beginner jobs. Do well and move up the ladder. Earn that $15 don't just expect it.
@barf, are you saying I'm not a resident? Can farmers not live in Memphis? Should we all drive Smart cars or Minis?
And when you say "the Kroger on Union" you are saying just the building and not the parking lot as well. A postage stamp sized piece of land literally smaller than the new Kroger is worth fighting over? 50,000 sq ft worth of hackeysack, picnics and frisbees? Oh my God the horror!
Is there any actual parking for the Levitt Shell? We use the street. They should fight for their postage stamp of land for parking too.
Really all in all its a clusterfuck for everyone. The money maker needs parking and the nonprofit doesn't want to give it to them. No one is gonna be happy in the end. And Memphis just gets worse. The midtown hippies won't give in and everyone else just says fuck it and leaves.. Awesome.
1.14 acres = 49,658.4 sq ft. That is slightly smaller than the Kroger on Union Avenue (54,000 sq ft); 19% larger than the Whole Foods in Germantown; equates to approximately 10 average residential lots in Midtown (50' x120'); the equivalent of paving over almost 60% of Court Square; paving over 86% of Collierville's Town Square; or (finally), is apparently the acceptable space somone from the burbs or sticks believes is a reasonable sacrifice for someone other than themselves to make in order to asure aforementioned non-residents are allowed to park oversized vehicles as close as possible to the front door of their destination and will be utilized on average only 10% of the year.
Perhaps that provides the scale references some here need.
At least they have a plan to have a plan. That's better than the last one who had a budget only.
Will the plan include zoning? Sidewalks protected by parked cars or other space barriers? no more buildings built diagonally to the street/road like rural MS? require uniform setbacks? stop using Shelby county rural zoning? require construction to meet design standards on top of other requirements? require a certain amount of greenery? provide satisfactory park funding to a very underfunded park system? fund aggressive blight removal? etc. etc.
@barf, we handle it just fine. My daily driver truck is even bigger than the burb. We get along just fine. And yes both have parked in the zoos current spots. Somehow we managed..
I could care less if the new spots are the same size or larger. I just think the 1.14 acres won't be missed at all. It's not like they are gonna carve it out of the middle of the Greensward. Hell its the zoo so maybe they will!
It's like a bad vampire movie, where the undead keep rising up to try to bite again... Speaking of Chuck...
Farmer et al.,
Based on your comments, I can only assume you have difficulty driving your vehicle which begs the question of why you purchased a Suburban if you could not handle navigating streets and parking lots due to its maneuvering characteristics.
That said, the UDC provides 2 alternative design dimensions where 90 degree head-in parking is concerned. The first dictates a minimum stall width of 8-6 and a stall depth of 18 with a minimum drive aisle width of 22. The second alternative dictates a stall width of 9 and a depth of 18 where the adjacent drive aisle width is a minimum of 20 wide. While these are minimums, few if any private developments provide for additional stall width or depth because of the lack of financial return for doing so. Of course, the zoo is an exception seeing as the City of Memphis owns, maintains, lights and secures the lot while the zoo is allowed to retain all income generated from parking. Securing more land for parking at this point would theoretically allow the zoo to "expand" its parking count in the future through the simple task of re-striping the lot in order to increase the potential financial windfall. Let's think...historically speaking, has the zoo ever shown a predilection for staking claim to more property than it could program at that moment?
The same standards that allow for a suburban mom driving in a Suburban to park at Wal-Mart and load/unload her pack of children is also enough to accommodate the same vehicle when parking at the zoo. Neither the zoo, the council nor a farmer guy are qualified to dictate the urban planning and design standards.
Why assume that the majority of people in the area care about 1.14 acres in the Greensward? I assume most don't actually know what an acre looks like. I think I'm good making that assumption too. There's literally thousands of acres of land in the city limits with burned houses or overgrown or abandoned lots. No one gives a shit about those. I think the zoo is a great asset to the city. People drive in from all over and spend money locally to go, no one drives in from 50-100 miles away to go to the Greensward. Maybe we should just let the zoo go to pot and no one would want to visit it..
farmer guy, why would you assume that, it's simple math? Why would we assume that you are a crappy parent for having to fight your children? Why would people driving oversized vehicles assume they deserve more room than the rest of us? Why make assumptions rather than take the trouble to ascertain facts?
75% of the autos are small or medium? Has he ever walked through the parking lot on a busy day? Tahoes, pickup trucks and Suburbans abound. Including our Suburban. And extra foot of width would be great when you are fighting with small children trying to buckle them in their seats.
Any of y'all actually know how big 1 acre is? I doubt it.
The problem with David Waters is summed up in his most recent piece. Where local evangelical pastors - who overwhelmingly supported Mr. Trump - send a message to minority groups that they will stand by them during Trumps rein of terror.
Absent are any probing questions like the fact the evangelical community elected Trump or that LGBT people are conspicuously absent from the open letter.
Mr. Waters serves up a country fried steak of small town religious boosterism. Best regulated to a pages of the Bug Tussle Gazette. It speaks volumes about our city that he remains so popular in the face of diminished art and literature coverage.
I want to support the major urban daily paper, but when the value I receive for doing so continues to shrink, at what point do I say the hell with it? Really, all I read it for now is Chris Herrington's 9:01, David Waters and Geoff Calkins.
I see too many USA Today articles on their website as it is.
The price is incorrect on the Toughest Monster Truck Tour event this weekend. Prices start at $10 for kids and are $22 and $27 for adults.
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