I don't see the state stepping in either OTP or how that would even have an impact if they did. That's why I'm wondering what kind of play could still be on the table once an agreement is signed. I see us moving forward with 5 buildings and possibly building an expansion to HHS in the future and MAYBE one day either regaining control of GES or GMS or building an additional feeder school if our school population outgrows our 5 facilities.
On the negotiations, I think it was a fair negotiation. As we were saying all along, the SCC case was weak. It was clear they were using the lawsuit as a pawn. That, and the buildings, were nothing more than pawns to try to get money out of the suburbs. We probably could've gone to court to fight both issues, and we could've won both. However, we had a vested interest in getting this issue settled quickly, so that we could stabliize our communities. SCS and the SCC knew this, and they played on that interest with threats that would at best likely pose a delay.
We were willing to pay off the SCC in the form of paying off SCS to avoid that delay, because what we're paying to SCS is probably less than we would've spent on attorneys fighting a battle. Plus, we get the bonus of this issue settling NOW, not a year or two from now. In other words, we'd rather our money be spent by SCS than on lawyers, so we cut a deal to save on legal fees.
Believe me, we don't see it as being snookered, even if we could've "won" in a fight. The smartest fiscal decision was made. Sometimes it's best to walk away from the fight, even if you can win.
Holden has been a good servant to his GOP masters. My guess is there's a story here that nobody is telling. Has he been making noises in private about replacing the easily-hackable paperless touch screen machines? That would be a good reason for the local GOP to turn on him.
Eeyore is whistling in the dark. A private deal has been formerly reached between the BOE of Germantown and the BOE of the SCS. Even if the state passes some kind of law that tries to give those three buildings to Germantown, that agreement will be grandfathered in. A court would not look favorably on a law that is post ex de facto, especially when the state decided to forego the school building question in it's initial lifting the ban on msds and the requirements to create and operate msds. I do not think the state is ready to push that envelope, future litigation, at this particular time.
The SCS also has a compelling government interest in keeping those 3 buildings, because they were mostly used by kids from outside of Germantown in the first place. The SCS has not tried to be punitive in the school buildings matter. It only kept the schools that it needed and was already being utilized by students that did not live in Germantown.
The agreement will be blessed by a federal judge and complies with state law as to agreements between Lea's.
Actually, the muni's got snookered in this whole deal. No one has ever lost a lawsuit in Federal Court on a 14th amendment claim when the state passes laws authorizing msds. The SCC would not have won in court, however, they could have delayed the msds for another year or two. A civil rights claim probably would have been favorable to the SCC or parent(s), however, the feds would have pushed for an agreement that would have kept the kids from unincorporated areas in the msd schools that they were originally assigned to. You see, Grove, you were right in your thinking all along, but, I could not agree with you and let the cat out of the bag. It seems that the SCC is smarter than a lot of suburbanites thought. The SCC took a losing case and actually came out ahead.
My nephew, who, as I have said before, is a civil rights attorney and he told me from the start that the SCC case didn't stand a chance of winning with this conservative Supreme Court. It was a game of chicken and the muni's blinked first. That is why as soon as the muni's accepted, the SCS BOE called special meetings to hurry up and approve those agreements.
Grove, you and the other muni's have been had, big time.
There is also a moral issue in the debate that has largely escaped notice. According to columnist James Kilpatrick, it is "the right of each person to control the drugs he or she takes." Kilpatrick calls fluoridation compulsory mass medication, a procedure that violates the principles of medical ethics. A New York Times editorial agrees:
"In light of the uncertainty, critics [of fluoridation] argue that administrative bodies are unjustified in imposing fluoridation on communities without obtaining public consent…. The real issue here is not just the scientific debate. The question is whether any establishment has the right to decide that benefits outweigh risks and impose involuntary medication on an entire population. In the case of fluoridation, the dental establishment has made opposition to fluoridation seem intellectually disreputable. Some people regard that as tyranny." http://www.expertclick.com/NRWire/Releasedetails.aspx?id=50126
Grove, I completely agree. I'm now zoned for the best schools in Germantown instead of the 3 worst. It does seem like people think that they are going to be forced to attend GES, GMS and GHS. Couldn't be further from the truth.
Janis Fullilove is the voice of reason. Oh. My. God.
With all these injuries I think Joerger needs to use Franklin they way he did on Monday (15 minutes) as opposed to the 7.5 minutes he's been averaging. This should allow this kid to get comfortable and find his way in the NBA and a spot on the team and hopefully he can be an asset come playoff time.
Just curious what you know that the public doesn't Eeyore.
It seems to me that the GMSD is going to open with 5 schools. When that happens, all of the residents in Germantown will be rezoned to those 5 schools next year. There likely won't be much room for grandfathering, since I'm betting space won't be available, so there will be a lot of movement between schools next year.
Once all residents in Germantown are zoned to the 5 schools, I don't see that there will be a great need for Germantown to have more buildings in the immediate future. The student population should fit in the buildings we will have. There won't be room for kids from Cordova or Collierville or the Southeast corridor, but we'll have room for all the Germantown kids.
I have a hard time seeing what the play will be to get the other 3 buildings once the students have been rezoned.
I could see if there is growth in Germantown student population that Germantown may help SCS fund a new building outside of Germantown to house some students, so that we can resume control of one or two of the other buildings, but that won't be in the immediate future.
I don't really see Nashville stepping in, though I guess that's still a possibility, even if an agreement is reached. I guess I'll have to wait and see.
Again though, I think in the long run, a single high school system will be MUCH better for the city of Germantown. All of our kids in one high school will be much better for the community in the long run, and I say that as a GHS alum. Honestly, even if we could get the other 3 buildings, I would be in favor of using GES and GMS for additional feeder schools, but I would want to see GHS turned into something else, so that we'd still only have one high school. That would be much better for the school system.
Won't the Fresh Market that is coming sell botique olive oils? Germantown Square, er Overton Square, is stacking up to be a fine jewel in the crown of Memphis. I for one can't wait for the traffic.
I still don't understand the angst.
It seems to me that some Germantown residents believe this means that part of Germantown will be zoned SCS.
That's simply not the case, and I don't understand why a lot of people still don't seem to get that.
@ CL Mullins
Somebody should have given Dana another shoe box, fur dang sure!
He was a rebounding machine. San Diego, purdy co-eds a-plenty, 78 degrees year round, the local doobage, what wasn't to like? The action wedge of my PF Flyers let us down, Maybe I should burn them.
By the way, CL, you remind me of cosmic star goat. He used to hang around the CA website and make fun of christians. I wonder what happened to him? He really seemed to hate christians.
Himiltrude? She was not the mother of Pepin the Short.
Charles Martel was the father of Pepin the Short (also called Pepin the Younger) who was the father of Charlemagne. Charlemagne had two children with Hililtrude, one of which was named after his grandfather Pepin. He was called Pepin the Hunchback.
So, well, there you are. All wrong and stuff.
As for where you receive the word of god, or whether god loves you, that's your business, not mine. You asked me "Still ignoring the word of God?", so I asked you to clarify. You've done that. It is abundantly clear that you hoped to manipulate me by the question. It didn't work.
All of that, and all because I asked a statement and then asked a simple question, that being:
Maybe I just want a little privacy and to pay my own way. What's wrong with that?
One of the most telling things you've written so far is the question you asked at the end of your 10:55 pm post on 12/9/13. You tell us of a wife you had, and then say that if she had access to decent health care, you wouldn't be married to a younger and richer woman, turning the whole issue into an affirmative statement about you.
WOW! Just plain W!O!W!
You really have no idea how callous you sound, do you? Was that supposed to make someone feel bad for you? How, exactly? I do feel bad for the wife in question. Really. But you want to turn that into a question about you. That's just, well, callous. Narcissistic. Disordered. And you clearly thought it was funny. I suppose you may mean to say that a cruel twist of fate led to better things, but still, somehow, you want it to remain an indictment of the health care system. No reason it couldn't be both. But, still, callous. Perhaps you intend for the story to illustrate something else. Maybe you mean to illustrate how this event in your life should make us all want to pay for your health care needs. I'd love to hear it.
Mark my words. G'town will get all 8 buildings.
I think this deal is great. No doubt about that.
OTP, don't ask, because I won't bother to explain to you why your end of the stick stinks. You'll soon figure out that it does and let go. All I have to do is wait for that.
Well, the vote was unanimous for the agreement. Of course there were some diehards saying fight on and wait until January to see what the state does in Nashville.
You and I both know that the Germantown politicians have already got Nashville's take on this situation. They are not stupid.
Oh yes, "Curse you Sam Diego State!" How's that for a headline?
Himiltrude, really? A concubine, at best, oenophile well into her 7th month, and noted opponent of amniocentesis, La fenêtre du diable.
And if I am gonna receive the word of God, it'll probably be thru a Memphis musician/journalist's interpretation of a new Pope, rather than a internet poster who won't even use his or her Christan name.
And,,, "I think your one of those guys that stand around thanking god for http://healthcare.gov/." I'll have you know that if my first wife had access to decent health care I wouldn't be married to my much younger and richer third wife.
Does God love me or what?
Stop paying lawyers - good
Issue settled? We'll see
Sith Lords really like this "vote of no confidence" ploy to gain further power don't they?
Hi this is Shelia Foster. My grandma was on the mother's board before she took ill. My husband proposed to me. My mama is on the usher board. I enjoy both of my grand kids. Their names are Jaylon James Thornton and Destiny Semay Thornton. I take amlodipine and lisinop for my high blood pressure. Hopefully I will see them one day. I do practice safe sex now but only with my husband. Trying to live a Godly life and not pass this liver condition I have contract ed.
By Louis Goggans
download this issue
click here to see more »