"Hell, it would have more population than a few states, Rhode Island, Delaware and a few others"... and would tie with Mississippi as the most poverty ridden state in the country.
Lots of homosexual men choose to live as heterosexuals. I'm pretty sure that their ex-wives would tell you that it isn't a good thing.
You aren't free to be whatever you want. You're only free to be what you're capable of being or becoming. Broadhead's theology isn't orthodox, whether judged by the standards of Calvinism or Arminianism. The idea that you can become something you're not by force of will has always been considered heresy in evangelical theology. And for good reason, because it's untrue.
Why all of this talk about whether being gay is by choice or science? It is stupid! Hell, why do some like mayonnaise but hate mustard?
Those that are not gay will never be able to understand and those who are gay feel it is natural to them.
This is America, where every one is free to do as they please as long as they don't interfere with the rights of others. If Adam wants to drop Eve and marry Steve, what is the fuss about? they wouldn't be interfering with anyone's rights.
I THINK GAYS SHOULD NOT EVEN TRY TO JUSTIFY WHAT IS NATURAL TO THEMSELVES AND CUSS ANYONE OUT WHO IS DUMB ENOUGH TO ASK!
That is why you republicans as a party are on a death spiral!
From a purely scientific standpoint I can offer you the proof that one who has homosexual tendencies can "choose" not to engage in homosexual acts and live as a heterosexual.
Bu wait, now that I think about it, that's really a false negative from a purely scientific standpoint.
Shoot, that doesn't do you any good. Well I gave it the good old college try.
I never said that I was disgusted by living in Tennessee! I was responding to an East Tennessean that said Memphis and Shelby County were disgusting to the rest of the state.
Hell, I don't feel any weight, personally from the state government, so, I am just fine. Also, having the knowledge that anything the state does will affect everyone else in the state also gives me great comfort, for when it is all said and done, we all want the same things.
Actually it matters a good deal.
If homosexuality is hard wired, it is not a "choice" and the homosexual community is right that God made them this way, and therefore homosexuality cannot be a sin.
If homosexuality is due to environmental factors, then homosexuality is not from God and homosexuality can be considered a a sinful "choice", or a disease, or a mental illness, or an emotional disturbance, or perhaps something else.
All I need is for Broad, as a person of faith, to help me understand those environmental factors, because I can find nobody that can do so, and I have looked.
All I ask for is the environmental factors and their correlations to homosexual behavior.
Goodness knows if you are going to take the position that homosexuality is a choice influenced by those factors, you should have that evidence readily available. I simply want to know what factors impel a person, according to you, to to choose to be a homosexual.
And I must say, I don't have the ability to be anything I wish. I am constrained by my genetic code to only be six foot one. I wish I could be taller, and have sky blue eyes instead of brown. I somehow missed out on ability in the scientific pursuits, too. I am also partically tone deaf and can't ever direct a symphony orchestra. I would like to do that, but it is not going to happen.
I can certainly control my own behavior, but I can't ever imagine the thought of another man ever giving me an erection. I suspect our gay board members would say the same thing about their opposite sex.
So, if you reject the idea of homosexuality being hard coded, and you can't fix upon any environmental factors, what is left? Why does homosexuality exist?
Just what the US Senate needs OTP, 2 Senators from the newly formed State of Memphis. ROFLMWAO
GroveReb84 & Farrukh Ahmed
I think your comments has been redirected for some reason. This article has been dead since March. They are interesting comments to the Master though. LOL
Very good. Since he has been a big advocate of everyone else moving if they don't like the majority now it's his turn.
Great choices. For my preference I would put Moneyball with Brad Pitt as #3. But it is all personal choices.
All you have to do is leave.
Excellent choice of movies. 'Fear Strikes Out' with Anthony Perkins and Karl Malden was always one of my favorites.
Does it hurt much to talk out both sides of your mouth?
Good point Jeff, and that means no foreplay during those few days out of the month either.
And if you or your wife get fixed, or if either of you are infertile, no more fun time at all. For that matter, you should be legally forced to divorce the minute one of you can no longer procreate, since that's the purpose of marriage, right? No more 80 year olds being married.
No Jeff, you can do all those things that are non-conformity in society.
You simply can’t provide chicken shit in a plate and call it chicken salad to anyone silly enough that will listen to the nonsense and expect EVERYONE to eat it.
So your argument is that homosexuals should be expected to "overcome" their genetic wiring?
Let me ask you this. What about the hermaphrodytes?
Usually the doctor chooses a sex for them at birth, but what if he chooses wrong?
Also, how do you explain their existence at all if God creates man for woman and vice versa? What purpose is there in their creation then? And if they "choose" one sexual preference over another, how do you determine if they made the "right" choice or not?
Sex and sexuality is not any more black and white than any other issue. No one can explain it perfectly, not even a book written by man and compiled by man centuries ago.
By the way, I think we should mark this thread down for the fact that it has myself, AP, and OTP arguing together on the same side of an issue. Historic moments...
Adhering to Broadhead's logic, marriage then is simply the "righteous" attempts to level the playing field for all those less than manly men willing or unable to compete and fight for the right to reproduce.........I mean that is "natures way" of sustaining a healthier population of animals is it not? With that same logic, one could conveniently argue that rape really isn't rape at all, it's simply the natural order of the stronger asserting his right as the more forceful individual........my goodness the female should rejoice that she was so chosen.............
Really Broahhead, you're equating humans (made in the Image of God) with the animal kingdom? Man, your theology is so twisted................let me guess, secretly, you still consider African Americans to be inferior to whites and if it weren't for the "progressive political correctness" would be better off still in chains and subject to the more "learned" white task master to keep them headed down the right cotton row. Throw in some 18th century "logic" concerning women and everything would be perfect in your little fantasy world.......... heck, what say we have a good old fashion inquisition, let's save all those non-conformist.
Just to throw some gasoline on the fire here, what possible difference does it make whether it's a lifestyle choice or genetically encoded? If I choose to live without electricity, automobiles, and buttons on my clothes, does that mean you, the majority, can tell me I can't marry the person I choose?
Anyway, let's turn this around and look at it from the back side - if homosexuality is a choice, then, logically, so is heterosexuality. Tell mea gain that your lack of desire for that hot guy at the gym is simply your choice and not hardwired into your hetero brain, and that on any given day you could change your mind.
And if the entire purpose of sex is procreation and only procreation, then anything you do outside of the act of coitus with the purpose of procreation must be, by your own definition, unnatural. That includes not only your own uncontrolled nocturnal emissions, but also all the fun things friends and lovers do when the lights are off (and on). It also includes your own coitus with your legal hetero spouse at any time other than her brief monthly period of fertility. Oh yes, to take this to its logical conclusion, you only get a few days out of the month to engage in the bouncy-bouncy - the rest of the month it's no soup for you.
Would you say without any sustaining documented progressive scientific evidence that the propensity for criminal behavior was a combination of genetics AND environment?
The same said for academics?
For economic achievement?
For artistic ability?
All things have a genetic propensity but requires the environment and the will to achieve the desired results, INCLUDING the homosexual as well as the criminal.
You ARE what you want to be.
@ Oldtimer.....(yawn) what's your point? Sin was around before Christ? It was also around before the great flood too! LOL
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