Which of these outside events outside of Memphis include parking on the grass? (If you admit to witnessing parking on the park grass in an American city, I don't think anybody, even if they cared, will be able to track you down.)
But how about trying it in Centennial Park, or on the Grove in Oxford, Public Garden in Boston, any park in Frisco. Maybe Texas, try Texas.
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Most every place that has an outdoor concert series
Most every college football program
Most every soccer / baseball tournament
Many carnival and music/ethnic festivals etc. etc.
even events here on Mud Island, at the Botanical Garden and at Shelby Farms
This is not new
I'm sorry i will not provide specific ones I have attended outside of here, I will remain anonymous. The local answers are obvious and people that have been elsewhere know it to be true as well
Feel free to use that much heralded and unused open space at the golf course or at the former fair grounds
If the Memphis Zoo can plan for expansion of exhibits, why can't they plan for more parking other than on the Greensward? I still think they should build a parking garage at Prentiss Place. It could be "obscured" by conifers or tall trees by the residents next door. I guess none of their large donors want to put their name on a parking lot?
Super excited about this fabulous event!!! Cannot Wait!!
With all of your experience in so many cities, please cite where a public institution instructs visitors to park in an active open greenspace akin to the Greensward on at least one out of every 5 days of the year.
Your mixture of hyperbole and absolute statements serve little purpose in a discussion. We will have to agree to disagree (strongly)
Pastner is a great guy and would probably make a fine friend but he is over his head with a major college basketball program. We need another coach.
If the zoo moves we can return all of that space to hardwoods, trees, and gardens. Go on the Tom Leatherwood site, and look at the aerial map of 1938 and then 2013. You can see the clear cut of the 4 acres by toggling between 2006 and 2008. Google Earth has clear pictures of this too when you scroll through the years. sad.
I'm with Jeff on this one.
WOW! That hurt! Last night's game was as close to a desperation game as a team can get. We all know what the second half looked like. What I what to know is what the devel happened in the locker room at half-time? It appeared as if a different team took the floor. How can a team be so competitive and then barely show up? Watched the game with two visiting friends from Connecticut. Great banter during intermission. At game"s end, I was speachless, unfortunately, they were not. Teams do not owe fans wins, but they do competitive effort. The team has to be upset by their performance and I suspect they will be looking to take it out on the Bearcats!
dat - the Zoo will either move, or so fill its tiny space and become so stagnated (we spent so much money building this - we can't tear it down) that it eventually withers away and dies.
And yes, most everything at the fairgrounds would have to be demolished or repurposed. Kroc Center and Children's Museum would blend nicely with a new zoo. But if you think about it, there's nothing else you could put in that space that would have anywhere near the positive economic and social impact as a state-of-the-art zoo.
Or we could have an empty parking lot.
No organization which cuts down part of an old growth forest to expand its exhibition areas can call itself a conservation organization. I would suggest that a hike through the Old Forest, with someone to point out the myriad native plants, and birds, lizards, snakes, mammals that actually live there, would have 1000 times the effect of inspiration to children and adults alike to appreciate the natural world and actually motivate them to try and preserve same. Close study of animals actually living in their habitat is far more valuable than close study of animals living in pens. I'd posit that your average hunter or fisherman gets more appreciation of nature in 5 minutes in the woods than 50,000 kids get by wandering around any zoo in America for days.
Now allow me to "backtrack" somewhat; I have no problem with zoos as a whole and what they do, with the proviso that they should provide adequate space for large, free ranging animals (look at the tiny enclosures for some of the big cats and tell me they're humane) don't keep certain types of animals at all (elephants?). But a zoo should ALWAYS defer to a conservation ethic first and foremost. That means not treating Overton Park as Chuck Brady's personal fiefdom and refusing to find a viable long term solution to this parking issue that doesn't include taking a fucking rhetorical dump on the Greensward. Dammit to hell. No, I can't express myself without cursing.
Well, at least Mobile gets a mention. I've been to five Mardi Gras Balls so far this season and I've got more ahead, just taking tonight off to relax a bit at Rocky Horror. I do miss my second hometown of Memphis, but it's a good time to be from Mobile.
It's too bad you can't express yourself without cursing.
In cities everywhere (I've lived in a number of them) land is used for multiple purposes. The best run ones make a point of having their limited land used multiple ways, as single purpose usage is a luxury.
We can discuss the merits of zoos all you want too. Certainly there's something to be said for leaving all animals in the wild. There's also something to be said of the understanding gained by their close study, the merit of inspiring children and adults to have an affection for wildlife that might not exist without them or in some sad cases the merits of keeping a species alive that we humans would have caused to go extinct
I don’t get the need for three new bridges. But other than that, the ML Professional Properties proposal strikes me as the most promising in terms of possibly providing tangible benefits for a large number of city residents instead of benefits for the high-brow and tourists passing through town. After all the tax dollars spent on Mud Island over the years, city residents deserve to enjoy some tangible benefits.
Yeah, but what kind of a redneck dumbass city would use a beautiful historic park as a parking lot on a permanent basis? And then cut down an old growth forest so they can put more animals in cages? Memphis, apparently.
@crack, I read it. Did you read my response?
People using the greensward could use the fairgrounds for FREE, right now
Try reading Jeff's post again regarding costs. Something as unbelievably popular as the zoo should pay for itself.
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