seems like some moving of the goal post with joerger, even with gasol injury. this is what we heard prior to season regarding Dave Joerger:
--He's won multiple championships in the NBA D-League and the CBA (translation: he is a great coach and at least as good but probably better than previous coach)
--He's got clear winning credentials at the minor-league level, and he's been with the Grizzlies since 2007 as an assistant. (translation: he is a proven coach and since he has been with team, there should be no dropoff or transition period).
And in regards to the "small roster moves", i think we agree this was best roster in the grizzlies history with the addition of a knockdown shooter and a legitimate backup center. I think if you told lionel he was going to be without gasol for 2 months, but you will have mike miller and kousos koufos on bench, he would be like, "LET'S GO"
But some of the lineups appear to be more than just *talking*, like q-pon - as you stated in article. So no marc gasol means no q-pon?? and no in-game adjustment from that plan?
You alluded to that being result of young coach, but it feels different than that.
It's going to be interesting to watch, because surely this can't mean q-pon is not going to play at all until marc returns, that would be like losing 2 players. It almost seems like he's about to get traded.
on analysis of nba scouting, its interesting scout 2 is only one from eastern conference (only 2 teams have winning records).
So unless he's from the pacers, then he appears to be mediocre at best or his team has lebron james, so how much scouting is really required:)
I thought scout 1 had a good view on situation if you read overall quote and don't focus on rudy comment, but even that could have been meant more in relation to lionel.
--It seems the rudy trade was at least the public start of issues between him and front office: the champagne taste/beer budget comment & the arrival of ed davis.
--I say public start because after seeing some of the lineups that joerger has played, its apparent there was significant discontent between lionel and front office even before that - it just wasn't going to work the way front office wants to do things.
On scout 3 and the koufos comments, don't get me wrong koufos is a decent/good player, but the quote "he was the starting center on a 57 win team" or "3rd seed in west" is a bit misleading.
--he was in a time share with javale mcghee. Koufos averaged 22 mpg, and mcghee 18 with mcghee's per being slightly better.
--the nba is filled with starting centers who would not be in the league 10-15 years ago
--- you can't say that about any other position
--- nba actually removed the center position from all star ballot
--- I understand he should only be compared to his current peers, but just trying to explain possible context by scout's comment.
On 3 things u liked, i guess it wasn't much to like:)
On not liking blame in losses, that's just a reality you need to get over or at least realize its going to happen.
But as far as calathes, i think a lot of frustration from fans is really with Joerger and minutes that certain guys get (I agree with you, it's not Ed Davis' fault that he sucked:)
Calathes shouldn't be playing more than bare minimum minutes, if any at all. His play highlights the deal that should have got done but did not - Mo Williams. He's averaging 10 and 5 as backup pg for 13-2 blazers. Calathes averages 2 and 2 and actually has a negative PER???
There's been a lot of a-kissing to front office for making koufos trade but that's like giving credit to someone for winning the lottery. Denver had their own "front-office-wants-more-minutes-for-certain-guy" situation, so it worked out for both teams.
You have a player like Mo Williams showing real interest that could fill a need, but don't get it done due to money????
iggy, that lineup at the end of the 3rd/start of 4th made it look like they are starting the tank job early.
it did two things: got rockets in a rhythm and deflated the starters. He must figure out rotations so that leuer and davis are not on court at same time. no excuse for this loss with or without gasol.
"I don't think Ed Davis will start in Gasol's place—Davis and Randolph don't pair together as well as Davis and another center, and Kosta Koufos is nothing if not a true NBA center."
LOL. i get you r a big davis fan, but from what we've seen and game types, if anything, leuer is a better candidate to see increased minutes than the beloved superstar in waiting.
we must agree to disagree on davis. if he's a punching bag, here's my left hook: he was 2 of 8 from field, and -13. and don't get me wrong, +/- can be a flawed stat at times, but just watching it i felt he was ineffective, especially defensively.
if this wasn't bad, just shows how low expectations have fallen for him.
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