Here's a story for you, Jeff... I bet Harris didn't give his wife any lip... .....................MARINA GUNTER HARRIS
The story of a Tennessee mountain girl as told by B. L. Ridley of Murfreesboro, TN for the “Confederate Veteran Magazine’s” April, 1896 edition…
“But I have a heroine of the mountains who developed in war times, yet on account of her obscure habitation and the bitter heart burnings existing between the two factions, so nearly divided in her section, that history has not yet given her name merited fame. I got her record from the Rev. J. H. Nichols, who lived in her section of Putnam County, three miles from Cookeville, Tenn. Her name was Miss Marina Gunter, now Mrs. Joe Harris.
“Her father, Larkin Gunter, was a Southern man, and some bushwhackers, claiming to belong to the Federal Army, resolved to kill him. One night three of them, Maxwell, Miller and Patton, visited his home and told him, in the presence of his family, that his time had come to die. They took him out from the house and in a short time this maiden of seventeen heard the licks and her old father's groans, when she rushed to the wood-pile, got an axe and hurriedly approached the scene.
“The night was dark and drizzly, and the men were standing by a log, on which they had placed her father and he was pleading for his life. She killed two with the axe and broke the third one's arm. He got away at lightning speed, but afterwards died from the wound. She lifted up her father and helped him home.
“Soon she sought and obtained protection from the Federal General at Nashville. She said afterwards, that upon hearing her father's groans she grew frantic and does not know, to this good day, how she managed it, nor did she know anything until she had cleaned out the platter.
“This is the greatest achievement of female heroism of its kind that has ever been recorded, and places Miss Gunter on the pinnacle of glory that belongs not alone to patriotism, but to the grandeur of filial affection the tie that stretches from the cradle to the grave, spans the Heavens and is riveted through eternity to the throne of God on high."
Source: Confederate Veteran, Vol. IV, No. 4, Nashville, Tenn., by B. L. Ridley, Murfreesboro, TN., April, 1896.
I personally have learned a lot from the native American religion. I personally value their culture.. Talk about a misused people.. Don't get me started on that one.
Now that I understand your question... Much easier answer... We wish to preserve and honor the Confederate solider and his sacrifice (what this rant page was all about). All the others you mentioned are rich heritages as well and should not be forgotten and celebrated. No one should be made to feel ashamed of their heritage.
I agree... Only a handful of those soldiers were slave owners.. I think that answer is simple. The victor gets to write history. And through their interpretations have borne false witness against their neighbors… In this case the South… they have been doing it for over 150 years.
If the truth about those years were indeed shared accurately… and you will never find it in our text books or Hollywood… There might be more harmony between the North and South, Black and White.. But then, the Federal Government would have to admit that they made some dreadful mistakes and while fighting for the freedom of every nation overseas, admit that they refused their own people the legal right of secession to form their own nation 150 years ago. That's how slavery works nicely into making the war “Righteous.” Lincoln didn’t wage the war about Slavery. It was about money. Those Yankee boys didn’t fight for freeing the black man.. Most of them were conscripted foreigners and could care less.. Look at the 1863 Drafts Riots of NYC (another misrepresented tale by Hollywood). But yet they get to write their Yankee Self-Righteous Version of History as gospel.
But you see the NAACP is now the 21st biggest hate group this country has. In 1991 they vowed to take the Confederate Flag down from every public location. It takes a lot of dedication to hate to do such a thing. And the way you get followers in any cult is to build a platform of hate… even their clergy has bought into this, seen him on TV… I think Dr King would be very ashamed of them. And they should be ashamed of themselves. Again I ask, where are the black heroes who will stand for our rights? Few and far between. The NAACP has become what they hate.. Does that make them equal, now that they can keep someone else down? Not in my opinion…
As far as the Park’s names.. Forrest has also been maligned. Most of what these folks who want to change the park names believe as gospel is only partially true.. The sad thing is before you make a decision such as this one, you are responsible to research all the truth. General Forrest set his slaves free and gave them their papers some 18 months (or so) before the war ended. He gave them their papers because he was afraid he would be killed in the field. Many of his slaves went to war with him. His trusted Scout was a black man by the name of Holt Collier.
I could go on... but I think you can read it better for yourself, if you go to “Defending the Heritage” facebook page. This facebook page gives you a lot of history you will not find in your text books.
At Crackoamerican... I think you are implying with the 280 years before the “War” the issue of slavery. This is how I see it... When you look at who sailed the slave ships you see they left from New England flying an American Flag. When the industrious north decided it was cheaper to hire immigrants than to house and feed slaves and their children, they sold them to the South, then criticized them for owning slaves. There is no one that will deny Slavery was an evil institution that needed to be terminated. In 1856 Robert E Lee said, “There are few, I believe, in this enlightened age, who will not acknowledge that slavery as an institution is a moral and political evil.”
We are taught that the war was over slavery. That is simply a lie, to make the victor seem like the “saints”. Nothing could be further from the truth. I have read time and time again about the North treating the freeman even worse. Dr Rock, a well educated black freeman both a Doctor and a Lawyer, made the following are two quotes in a speech given to the Massachusetts Anti-Slavery Society on January 23, 1862. “I do not deny that there is a deep and cruel prejudice lurking in the bosoms of the white people of this country. It is much more abundant in the North than in the South.” And… “Let me tell you, my friends, the slaveholders are not the men we dread! They do not desire to have us removed. The northern pro-slavery men have done the free people of color tenfold more injury than the Southern slaveholders.”
I believe slavery would have been ended in a way that would not have brought on the racial unrest we know today, if the South had been able to handle the issue. Many educated Southern men back then knew the answer was in their education. Education is the great equalizer. It was then and it is now.
If you are sincerely interested in understanding why the 20th Century unfolded as tragically as it did, read this Northern professor lecture on the Reconstruction and the KKK. What we get in our text books is one paragraph that you walk away thinking … well, that wasn’t too bad. When in reality it left us with what we have today. Here is the link to that read on-line. http://archive.org/stream/secretpoliticals…
As far as why I support Southern Heritage is because it is just keeping one of the Ten Commandants: “Honor Your Father and Mother.” And if you ask any other Southerner they will say the same thing… Nothing more, nothing less.
Are there racist among us. Yes.. But they come in all different colors. The sad truth is that the worst of each race get to define the whole. Isn’t that sad, for every one. When I was a young man in the 70’s I stood up for the black man’s equal rights. And I am glad that the 20th century is behind us. Now there is a bright future for anyone who wants to work hard to achieve it. But now I have to ask… Where are the black heroes that will stand up for what is important to me? I can tell you … they are few and far between.
I think MLK said it best, “'Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that.” I guess it is a personal decision we each make. How are we, when we are in control, going to treat our fellow man. Memphis City Council has to ask themselves that question. With naming the parks there comes an opportunity. Do I gain grace by showing love or do burden my soul by showing hate. It will be theirs to answer.
crackoamerican... AKA Legion... oK... you win. ;)
Crakoamerican... Oh... geez... I guest every sight needs a troll and you can be this ones. As it probably is what you need to fell better about yourself. And by "know who your friends are" I mean. Are you interesting in preserving Southern Heritage? ... and if your answer is yes ... then you need to recognize who also wishes to do that. Not in a spirit of hate, but in one of kindness and respect for all. What is happening in Memphis has nothing to do with kindness... But is seriously... I think you really don't care about anything besides verbally mounting people who have something to say about things that are important to them... That also showed a character flaw that was evident from your first post. And yes I had a great Easter, Thanks for asking...
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