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      <![CDATA[To win consistently your 4 or 5 must have enough offense to warrant a double team. We need one of those pieces.
        
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      <![CDATA[FOR THE LOVE OF EVERYTHING HOLY, PLEASE DON'T TAKE THABEET!<br>
Sorry, had to get that out of my system.<br>
Take Rubio to force his and some team's hands, and then trade him before draft night is done for a veteran player and a high draft pick.
        
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      <![CDATA[Now I am just dreaming at this point. Don't take this too literal but I was thinking about a 3 way trade with Houston and Phoenix.
        
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      <![CDATA[I am not 100% sure you would have to include Rudy in that trade. I am sure Phoenix would ask for that, but after seeing what they took for Shaq...
        
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      <![CDATA[You could probably work in something with Houston as the third team throwing around Barbosa too but I think Houston is gagging for Amare so that would be no good :(<br>
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      <![CDATA[With the Shaq trade it looks like the Suns may be looking to move Amare. How about Rudy and the #2 for Amare and the #14???
        
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      <![CDATA[Stevie Grizz, I also believe the Grizzlies are going to draft Thabeet because they think they could get more for him than for Rubio. Just consider Rubio's still unclear buyout, his falling out with Sacramento etc.<br>
        
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      <![CDATA[Herenton's now available. Trade him to MN for 5 and 6.
        
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      <![CDATA[Chris - not that I think this is what Heisley & Co. are doing, but I'm still hoping this is their strategy:<br>
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They may know that Thabeet's value is higher with Minny than Rubio's. So play up Thabeet enough that Minny has to throw #6 and Love in.
        
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      <![CDATA[Marc Gasol is my favorite Grizz player, for the reasons that you mentioned, Chris. I hope that he is a mainstay on the team for a long time.
        
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      <![CDATA[Sacramento deciding not to opt for Rubio, according to Yahoo...<br>
Perhaps all the Rubio fans should askthemselves, why Sacramento, the team who desperately need a PG and have had the closest look at Rubio, do not feel confident drafting him at 4...<br>
<a href="http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-draftbuzz062409&prov=yhoo&type=lgns" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-d&hellip;</a>
        
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      <![CDATA[Hasheem Thabeet being drafted by the Grizz will not sell a single additional season ticket.<br>
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Suck it up Heisley, take on Baron's contract and figure it all out later. Move up for Griffin - damned the consequences...
        
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      <![CDATA[Tell ya what ... I don't necessarily think teams should surf message boards and draft according to what the fans are saying there ... because, as I've stated, they're professionals, whose livelihoods are on the line in these situations.
        
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      <![CDATA[Dobromyr, thanks man. I totally agree with NOT taking thabeet for alot of reasons, but I most agree with Chris's point about how he doesn't fit AT ALL with our current team. So, it makes no sense when you think that they say to draft the best player available, and you reach for a player you dont need.
        
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      <![CDATA[This shouldn't be a hard decision. Just take Rubio.
        
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      <![CDATA[GCmemphis, very smart comment, man. Totally agree.
        
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      <![CDATA[Great article Chris. <br>
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Let me go on the record here.
        
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      <![CDATA[Chris,<br>
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I think there's at least one glaring omission from your list of "true centers" taken within the top five picks since 1990. <br>
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In my view, Kwame Brown definitely belongs on the list.
        
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      <![CDATA[I say we trade the #2 to Minny for the #5 and #18 picks, take Tyreke at #5 (if he is there, if not, James Harden or Stephen Curry), take Sam Young at #18, Demarre Carroll at #27 and Patty Mills at #36. Wouldnt that be considered a succesful draft?
        
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      <![CDATA[Chris, there are just a few really good teams in the Spanish league, the rest is crap.<br>
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Rubio was forcefed by Joventut who were investing time in him with eyes on his juicy buyout.<br>
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Everybody cites he's playing professionally since he's 14, but in terms of shooting and his body, he has not developed much for being 4 years in professional basketball.<br>
        
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      <![CDATA[Yes, I picked a 5 game stretch in the Euroleague and and an 8 game stretch in the Olympics... sorry but that is all he played Internationally last year. And you were the guys who said he "dominated international basketball", I am not saying he does not have certain skills, but he did not dominate in any way.
        
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      <![CDATA[this draft sux....just draft J Hill at #2 and really throw everybody off...."F" the rest of the league. :)<br>
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Go GRIZZ
        
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      <![CDATA[Dobromyr -- I don't think Rubio is all hype. The Euroleague stats you cite are a much smaller sample than his play in the ACB, not to mention his performance in various international tournaments and the context of his youth in all of this<br>
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But, you may be correct that his risk has been under-recognized by his proponents, which is why I linked the Hollinger piece, which does not predict stardom for Rubio.
        
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    <title><![CDATA[Re: The Case Against Thabeet]]></title>

    
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      <![CDATA[and as for the Olympics, what is his PER 48 or 40 on his statline for playing against the best players in the world?<br>
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Or do you want to go by games where he played OVER 20mins 3 games out of 8
        
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      <![CDATA[lol you picked out a 5 game stat line. Are you dead serious on that?!?<br>
        
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