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      <![CDATA[Yeah, the Wallace interview was the icing on the cake.  I especially loved the part where he said the team's fans were excited about the future.  Meanwhile, the message boards were imploding with fans screaming about wasting the #2 pick.  <br>
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But the worst part of this?  Marc<br>
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Heisley and Hollins are going to try to justify this terrible pick by playing Thabeet for big minutes.  He will "struggle" with the NBA game.  (Which is code for suck.)  And Marc will be left sitting on the bench watching a guy, who isn't good enough to even back him up, get his minutes.  These idiots made a bad pick and they will now commit themselves to "developing" it.  <br>
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I hope Marc ends up on a good team someday.  In fact, I hope all the talented guys on this team end up with better teams someday.
        
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      <![CDATA[If anyone cares, I recorded my draft thoughts for all eternity on what is known as the world wide web.  Twitter handle da_guys<br>
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It gets ugly.  The Grizz couldn't have done anything more to antagonize me last night, right down to the chris wallace interview.
        
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      <![CDATA[I can't believe I upgraded my tickets!  Eight long years I've been givin' this dang fool my money and he insists on wiping his butt with it every chance he gets!  I guess I'm the fool.<br>
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MEM = F-
        
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      <![CDATA[Grizzly Adam you are being kind of harsh... I think you are forgetting about all the great NBA stars that made a name for themselves producing against sub par talent and disappearing when NBA talent showed up.  <br>
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Thabeet is going to be great!<br>
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I for one will be rooting for another team now. Lionel Hollins is an effing moron too.
        
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    <pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 08:41:35 -0500</pubDate> 
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      <![CDATA[The 3 second rule will effectively cancel out what Thabeet brought to the college game.  When he has to adjust from standing still and setting to block to having to block on the move, a skill that Thabeet does not excel nearly as well at at, he will be exposed.  <br>
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So long Marc - we appreciated your rookie campaign and whatever little time you have left with the Grizz.
        
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    <pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 08:35:18 -0500</pubDate> 
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      <![CDATA[Yeah, Marc is a natural power forward the same way that Shaq and Yao are natural power forwards.  God, that might be the worst post of all time.  And considering it was written about the worst pick of all time, that is a double dose of failure right there.  <br>
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The best part is the condescending attitude given at the beginning:   "every single one of you is a fool and just proves that ya'll know nothing let me repeat NOTHING about basketball."<br>
Just before he points out how little he knows by suggesting:  A. Marc is a natural 4 (lol), and B. Thabeet is going to be a defensive force (lol).  <br>
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Thabeet got embarrassed by Joey Dorsey two seasons ago, and Dejuan Blair last year.  Those are two undersized players who both went in the SECOND ROUND of the draft!  Yeah, Thabeet is going to be amazing!  LOL
        
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    <pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 08:30:24 -0500</pubDate> 
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      <![CDATA[well i was hoping to wake this morning and find out about a sweet deal made in the cover of darkness as we somehow stole a Great PF...but no luck.<br>
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As for a grade, i'll give us one better than whatever MN would get:<br>
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MIN = D-<br>
MEM = C-
        
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      <![CDATA[After sleeping on it, I think I'm going to go with Minute Bol as a nickname for Thabeet.
        
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      <![CDATA[@ rcounce2 <br>
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Marc is a Center. Shows how little you know about basketball. He isnt fast enough to compete with the true power forwards. Also I think its funny how everyone talks about our terrible defense( I agree it is terrible) but we had the 2nd worst offense in the league and so know we drafted a center that has no offense at all and wont be able to sit in the paint like in college b/c the NBA has a 3 second rule.
        
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    <pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 02:32:16 -0500</pubDate> 
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      <![CDATA[rcounce2,<br>
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You do realize that we have MARC Gasol, right? We traded Pau to the Lakers. He won a title this year. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you just suffered through a case of mistaken identity since obviously no one with an ounce of sense would ever think of the 4 being the natural position for MARC Gasol.
        
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    <pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 02:31:36 -0500</pubDate> 
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      <![CDATA["Your post was fail."<br>
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QFT!!!!!
        
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      <![CDATA[You're LOST: "...and allow Marc to play his natural position at the 4 spot..."<br>
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I just HAD to stop listening at that point.
        
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      <![CDATA[Marc is a natural center. He is a pure center. Your post was fail.
        
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    <pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 01:23:15 -0500</pubDate> 
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      <![CDATA[every single one of you is a fool and just proves that ya'll know nothing let me repeat NOTHING about basketball.<br>
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1. Analyzing Thabeet: great pick no trade was availiable at the right price so we took a guy who can shore up the defense and allow Marc to play his natural position at the 4 spot also allowing Marc to become more of a scoring threat because now he doesnt need to worry about defense and rebounding 24/7.  Also, finally we can watch Rudy Gay play without throwing something at him cuz Thabeet will make up what he and Conley lack in defense.<br>
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2. Analyzing Carroll: this is where the Grizzlies failed tonight a 6'7 4 man? did we really just draft the athletic version of Brian Cardinal. He will bring hustle defense and athleticism off the bench which is needed so in a sense teh Grizzlies suceed here because Carroll is definately better than Buckner, Ross, and Jaric.<br>
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3. Analyzing Young: great pick! the Griz needed someone who can play the 2 or 3 off the bench and someone who can flat out score the ball in every way possible plus the old man can play defense.<br>
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So what have we learned tonight? the Grizzlies seem to be satisfied with the progression of Conley and will most likely let OJ play some more point seeing as though we did not get a point guard...<br>
We also learned the Grizzlies consider their biggest weakness to be defense. Hard to argue because when the teams you play shoot over 45% against you thats an issue.  However with the additions of Thabeet, Carroll, and  Young overall team defense should improve immensely.<br>
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Whats left? scoring the basketball! 29th in points per game, 21st in field goal percentage, and dead last in assists per game means some serious help in the area of scoring is needed but your rotation as is should look like<br>
1.Conley(Mayo)<br>
2.Mayo(Young/Richardson)<br>
3.Gay (Carroll/Richardson)<br>
4.Gasol(Arthur/Warrick)<br>
5.Thabeet(Gasol)
        
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      <![CDATA[and regarding Amare lol:<br>
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The Suns likely landed their man in Thursday night's draft before their pick ever came up. Golden State's selection of Davidson point guard Stephen Curry at No. 7 was likely made for the Suns as part of an Amaré Stoudemire trade that can't be completed until Wednesday. That is because Phoenix would be acquiring Warriors center Andris Biedrins, a base-year compensation player, as part of a Stoudemire deal that would include more Warriors players, possibly power forward Brandan Wright and/or shooting guard Marco Belinelli.
        
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      <![CDATA[I had just got home and just saw that Memphis passed on Blair too lol<br>
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San Antonio got Blair and McClinton... Oh dear God and Jesus... I am just going to go to sleep and hope this was all a bad dream<br>
        
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Are we going to make any other deals? Amare maybe?
        
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      <![CDATA[Lol ... What happened here?!?<br>
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Honestly, and Shawn don't chime in telling me how the "professionals" are taking care of it. <br>
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This draft did NOTHING to boost sales or even drum up excitement about the franchise. <br>
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I like Chris Wallace alot but watch for him to be the fall guy for this when it doesn't pan out. <br>
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If there are no moves made for a STAR PF in Free Agency (re: Marion, Amare trade, Boozer) then you can stick a fork in the season before it even starts.<br>
        
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      <![CDATA[Lester Hudson, much better story thn underachieving Dozier and another reason I am glad Pastner is recruiting Memphis again. Wait...did I just turn this into a Tiger forum. Yep. They still rule this town. And the Grizz make it easier every year.
        
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      <![CDATA[Robert Dozier = the only thing positive about this horrid night.
        
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      <![CDATA[Robert Dozier = Mr. Irrelevant
        
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    <pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 23:07:47 -0500</pubDate> 
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      <![CDATA[Can we legally ban Heisley from setting foot again in the city?
        
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    <pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 22:59:45 -0500</pubDate> 
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      <![CDATA[If everything stays the same, this draft is officially Thableep!!!<br>
        
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    <pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 22:49:53 -0500</pubDate> 
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      <![CDATA[Well, I have held back commenting before now, in the hope that a trade was still on the horizon.  But, that is looking very unlikely at this point.  <br>
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So, now I can say it:<br>
This was the worst draft in the Grizzlies' history.  And that is saying something.<br>
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They will be very lucky if Thabeet isn't booed out of the building on opening night.  Well, that is assuming anyone shows up on opening night.  Unless some miraculous trade or free-agent signing happens during the off-season (and we know how often that happens for the Grizz), this team has buried themselves and their fan-base.  <br>
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They took a golden opportunity and picked the Shawn Bradley/Kwame Brown of this draft.  Congratulations Mr. Heisley and Mr. Wallace.  It took a lot to kill the last of my hope... but you managed it.
        
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    <pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 22:43:19 -0500</pubDate> 
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