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      <![CDATA[And I've never once questioned the integrity, academic or otherwise, of specific players or coaches. I have said, and will reiterate, that I was also a member of this "manly" culture that you speak of.
        
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      <![CDATA[Hey, when I made my "words are just sounds" comment that was not as a former member of any rhodes athletic program- go back and check my comment. I don't give you permission to use it as a shield to prove the authenticity of your claims.
        
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      <![CDATA[John, you make some really good points here. But I'll have to disagree with you that the term wasn't used with that much regularity, even by coaches.
        
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      <![CDATA[I was a student athlete on the Rhodes' Football team before, during, and after Kyle Ference had his one season stint with the team. I was their under the same coaching staff and same athletic coordinator.
        
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      <![CDATA[We have MUCH bigger problems in this country than some use of the word "school fag". The main point of the argument that is being overlooked is that the descriptive was not used to degrade or characterize homo-sexuals but rather those in the Rhodes community(including students) who look down on the Rhodes athlete with some sort of bias because in their minds, the athletes get special treatment.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[Just a thought]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[It's disappointing to see space for constructive dialogue go to waste when trashed with personal attacks both ignorant of the article's stated intent and pettily resistant to the article's value. This article is profoundly valuable in its potential to instigate a worthwhile discussion about the destructive attitudes and their otherwise unquestioned manifestations in our greater culture—a culture that is, please note, socially constructed (that means, by you and me).
        
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      <![CDATA[This article is extremely important, and I am glad to have read it. As to the majority of the commentary on the article seems to only want to focus on the world of sports, I think many are overlooking its main point: just because an offensive word can be used everyday without consequence does not make it culturally acceptable.
        
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      <![CDATA[I think a very important point addressed in this article is the fact that within the Rhodes community, which vocally prides itself on being accepting and community-driven, is the fact that this subculture not only reinforces prejudice, hate, homophobia, and sexism for the sake of "manliness" and hard work, but that it has been allowed to get away with it for years. As a female student working with in our community to raise awareness for global women's rights and issues, I would like to thank the writer of this article for shedding light on a subject that obviously can no longer be ignored.
        
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      <![CDATA[Well done and bravo to Kyle Ference for addressing a major problem within the football community around the country. It's truly refreshing to see that not everyone accepts this narrow view of masculinity.
        
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      <![CDATA[@Alex -- The first point of yours that I'll address is your assertion that I am attacking a culture as an outsider and now passing judgment. If you'll look back at any comments that I've made thus far, you'll see that I readily implicate myself in being complicit in that same culture.
        
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      <![CDATA[@Alex I just feel sorry for you. You're so ignorant it's incredible.
        
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      <![CDATA[Geoff Calkins, here, from the Commercial Appeal, WKNO and 92.9 FM. I'd like to get in touch with Chris Davis, if he happens to check back.
        
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      <![CDATA[None of you pu$$ies know what it's like to hold your dying comrade's head in your arms and watch him gasp his last breath......of course, neither do I, but that isn't the point.
        
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      <![CDATA[Sebastian, is that you?
        
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      <![CDATA[You experienced the culture, our culture? I am having trouble trying to place you in the grand scheme of things when looking at practice field, game field, or weight room.
        
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      <![CDATA[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InGtiEXQyF0
        
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      <![CDATA[I was joshing. Waving my Springer-finger and everything.
        
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      <![CDATA[Hey Thomas. What's the problem with living in the 'burbs and working as a professional?
        
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      <![CDATA[Davis-<br>
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Not trying to be one-up you on college atmospheres, just using the context to make my point. Rhodes has a greek system.
        
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      <![CDATA[If a bunch of naked white guys dancing to footlose after beating Sewanee isn't gay then I don't know what is.
        
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      <![CDATA[For the record. Quarterback is a gay position.
        
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      <![CDATA[Raise your hand if you think the reference to "school fag" was actually a comment on a students sexual orientation. Now raise your hand if you think the use of term "school fag" is gay.
        
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      <![CDATA[Chris, I'll pretend you didn't just get all "my college is more progressive than your college." Then I'll agree, coaching changes things.
        
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      <![CDATA[Can't believe I'm wading in on this, but...<br>
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One person's experience with the Rhodes football program is probably minimally relevant to another's unless they played under the same coaching staff. <br>
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From my own experience as a student at a small liberal arts school with a much more progressive campus than Rhodes, we had massive problems with the culture of the football team under one coach and then that changed dramatically (for the better) when that coach was fired and replaced with someone who understood how the sport fit within the context of the school.<br>
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I know nothing of the specifics of Rhodes football and cast no judgments on it, but I have no doubt that the kind of problems the author cites can absolutely infect the programs at even academically rigorous D-III schools like Rhodes.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[Chris Davis]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[No, we didn't overlap, but I'm not sure that's all that relevant since neither of us can comment on the program over a broad spectrum of time. The school is still Division III though and between the honor code, the social committee, NCAA Div III rules and your faculty adviser etc. you had all the tools to confront this kind of thing, and to win, if you really wanted to play ball or to make a stand.
        
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    <pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 15:30:11 -0600</pubDate>
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