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      <![CDATA[Your sandbox, your rules. You know I'll respect that.
        
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      <![CDATA[No problem, Mike. Like most sites, we just prefer to control what gets linked, and to do so in such a way that it leaves our site window open.
        
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      <![CDATA[Bruce, thanks for allowing the link to MSJ to stand. Wasn't sure of the etiquette involved but took a chance (since it was 2AM).
        
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      <![CDATA[Yeah, it's related to the thread. spam link to the same content on all of the food, music, and art posts it would be different.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[tomguleff]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[One thing I like about the Main Street Journal is the ton of links it provides. I go there daily.
        
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      <![CDATA[Mike posts links to the Flyer everyday, Bruce.
        
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      <![CDATA[I'll let it stand this time, Mike, but in general, we're not real big on letting other media folks promote their stuff on our site.
        
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      <![CDATA[Good stuff, Mike.
        
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      <![CDATA[Two of the commenters here, Commissioner Mike Carpenter and Mick Wright, have both contributed essays elaborating on their respective positions about funding the OECY to the Main Street Journal: <a href="http://www.mainstreetj.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.mainstreetj.com</a>
        
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      <![CDATA[Mike Carpenter, thanks weighing in to carry our public understanding further than the few lines of print it would ordinary receive. I am horrified that we would cut any budget item that returned on its investment so many fold.
        
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      <![CDATA[Auto, I am going to require some future draft choices for some of these deals. Your bench is not very deep at the state level.
        
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      <![CDATA[I'll take it, Tom. I also think we could work out some kind of a deal for the allegedly heterosexual House member Stacey Campfield.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[Jackson Baker]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[TG, you're an accurate observer of trendlines.
        
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      <![CDATA[Here's a deal. DH, I'll give you Mike Carpenter, if you give us Jim Strickland.
        
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      <![CDATA[Auto, Your third paragraph is as succinct an analysis of the difference between liberals and ideological conservatives as I've read anywhere. Kudos.
        
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      <![CDATA["Churches, not-for-profits lack the capacity to deal with the magnitude of these specific problems alone, but can be part of the solution."<br>
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This right here is the most clear proof you will ever find that Mike Carpenter is not an ideologue. As a liberal, I've been trying to get this precise point across to conservatives for nearly all of my adult life.
        
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      <![CDATA[My comment just above got posted before I could edit some things, which I hate but there you go....<br>
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Anyway, my objection is primarily ideological in that I don't think government should behave this way, creating an office to essentially "game" a system built on dealing out money taken from the people. That way lies corruption and abuse, with a low likelihood of accountability.
        
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      <![CDATA[See, this colloquy with a real, live elected official is why, as I've said before, the comment section of the Flyer is better than any of those creepy "social" networks.
        
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      <![CDATA[Mike and Mike, thanks for an illuminating dialogue. I wish all public officials were this straightforward.<br>
        
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      <![CDATA[Mike, I tried to answer your questions and provided additional information. I did notice the question marks after each statement.
        
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      <![CDATA[First, would either of you mind linking the CA article you're quoting? Jeez, internet 101, guys.
        
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    <pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 16:24:36 -0500</pubDate>
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    <title><![CDATA[Re: Shelby County Commission Votes to Defund Office of Early Childhood and Youth]]></title>

    
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      <![CDATA[Yes, Mick. I did respond to all of his questions as I said in the previous post.
        
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    <pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 14:31:54 -0500</pubDate>
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    <title><![CDATA[Re: Shelby County Commission Votes to Defund Office of Early Childhood and Youth]]></title>

    
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    <author><![CDATA[Mick Wright]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[You were responding directly to each of Hollihan's questions, Mr. Carpenter, not to a quote from the article, which is why he did and still deserves your apology, a fact you now feign to recognize. I reject your new set of personal attacks, which are as completely unsubstantiated, bogus and ill-considered as your earlier ones, and refer you back to my previous statement.
        
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    <pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 14:18:52 -0500</pubDate>
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      <![CDATA[Mick, I never said anything about Hollihan. I addressed his questions without naming him and I characterized the quote from the article, “There is a lot of confusion about the office and what it does" as from those lazy or unwilling to listen.
        
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    <pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 13:41:51 -0500</pubDate>
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      <![CDATA[Mike C, to be fair. Dottie Jones was quoted - “There is a lot of confusion about the office and what it does,” she added.
        
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    <pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 13:22:24 -0500</pubDate>
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