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      <![CDATA[Here is another thought:<br>
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Spend more time fixing your own problems before thrusting them on others.<br>
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And one more thought just to make you a better person:<br>
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Do not bear false witness against thy neighbor.<br>
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And a third, even:<br>
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It is best to know what you are talking about before posting on a public board and making a fool of yourself, even if it is done from behind a keyboard.<br>
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    <author><![CDATA[Memphomania]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[Here's a new thought:  Spend more time with your children and less time constructing elaborate justifications to re-segregate school systems.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[nerfrocks]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[So, OTP-what do you say for the black and multi-racial families in the suburbs who will also be voting for a municipal school system? Anyone, please feel free to answer this.
        
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      <![CDATA[I wish you'd stop trying to speak for me.  I haven't once tried to hide my feelings on this issue.<br>
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Also, for one more time, I wasn't around in the 70s. My parents hadn't even met yet, much less considered having me, so needless to say I had very little to do with what went on back then, and my ideas on life are not based on what happened back then.
        
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      <![CDATA[Grove, the difference with me and you is that I don't hide my feelings for what I want to do. I am also for the constitutional right of things, even if I personally suffer as a result of it.<br>
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Yes I want my child to succeed and will do what it takes,  however, I will not trample over the rights of others to do it.<br>
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With the record of segregation when it comes to schools, I believe in my heart that this is more a continuation of segregation since the desegregation lawsuit was filed on Shelby County in 1971.
        
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      <![CDATA[There is a post I can agree with.<br>
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"I want every child to succeed, however, my first order of business is my own child."<br>
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Sounds just like my own opinion.<br>
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"If Ridgeway becomes an ASD School, I will go to court to have my child and hope others will follow all over Memphis, to other schools with the same access to the education that my son is getting. That, I believe is a case that I, we will certainly win."<br>
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This sounds an awful lot like "I will do anything within my power to preserve my child's education opportunities and ensure he/she gets the best available."
        
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      <![CDATA[That is precisely where the problem with the ASD lies. There are a good many children within those schools that are doing just fine.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[ArlingtonPop]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[Who is "we", Kemo Sabe?
        
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      <![CDATA[My Freshman in the county schools just completed:<br>
H. Geometry<br>
H. English I<br>
H. Latin I<br>
H. Biology <br>
Wellness <br>
H. Art/H Wold History<br>
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She has a 4.2 weight GPA. <br>
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She scored advanced on both EOCs.
        
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      <![CDATA[Grove and AP.<br>
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This is in response to another thread where you kept asking if I knew anyone who was deprived of the right to vote. I said at the time that nationally, no one was concerned with tennessee because it has no effect on the presidential election.<br>
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Well, to show you what I meant, President Obama's justice department has ordered Florida to stop purging its voter's roll and to not make any changes until it is vetted by the justice department.
        
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      <![CDATA[Grove, my son qualifies to go to any optional and/or advanced course school anywhere in Memphis, not just Ridgeway. He can go to WSHS too.<br>
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His first 6 years was done in schools, one that did not meet ayp and was put on the warning list.
        
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      <![CDATA[By the way, as I drive through Germantown, I see loads of yellow "Vote Yes" signs. I have yet to see anyone organize an effort to get out the "No" vote, nor have I heard much opposition.<br>
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I don't think playing a tax increase scare is going to sway the vote in any of the suburbs, especially when the tax increase of basically the same magnitude is coming whether we vote Yes or No.
        
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      <![CDATA[As I suspected based on your previous postings, you're in Ridgeway's district. Ridgeway is one of the few quality schools in Memphis.
        
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      <![CDATA[Grove, the circle you run into is very small. I, being a dealer, have conversed with a many, many, diverse people, some very wealthy, actually filthy rich all the way down to the improvished.
        
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      <![CDATA[Here is a truth for you.<br>
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Our county taxes are going to have to go up to help fund schools in this county whether we have MSDs or not.<br>
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That's going to happen for everyone because Memphis won't be kicking in $68M anymore. The kicker is that county tax funding gets spread across all districts according to ADA.<br>
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I don't see any way that an MSD will require a higher level of per pupil funding than the USD will.
        
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      <![CDATA[Grove and AP, you know exactly what Awesome is saying. He is saying that a municipal school district does not have to take any kids outsied of their city boundaries.
        
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      <![CDATA[@Justme<br>
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That certainly is not being denied.
        
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      <![CDATA[It appears that awsomeblurg means to say that once the unified system is created the new system will move children around based upon the race of the children.<br>
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In other words, busing. Again.
        
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      <![CDATA[I would suspect AP that they moved for the schools, especially if they have children.<br>
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That's what most people do when they have children. I have two close friends who owned houses in Memphis.
        
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      <![CDATA[@GR<br>
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Perhaps i misunderstood Awesome' point. My assumption was that the consolidation would be accompanied by the formation of the municpal districts.
        
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      <![CDATA[Bussing would just be another way for the city of Memphis to waste money. Neighborhood schools are neighborhood schools because of transportation costs.<br>
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As to the racial make up of the schools, if schools are consolidated, there is a chance the racial make up could change in the schools could change on its own depending on who elects to move out of the county and who elects to send their kids to private schools.<br>
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I think it's largely known that most of the middle class suburbanites don't want Memphis rule over their children's education, so I would suspect most of that middle class will find alternative paths for educating their children.
        
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      <![CDATA[@Awesome,<br>
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I really don't know better. Why should the racial mix of any suburban school change after consolidation?
        
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      <![CDATA[AP: are you telling me that the racial mix of, say, Germantown HS, won't change after consolidation? I think you know better.
        
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      <![CDATA[@Awesome<br>
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Depends on whether or not you believe Mike Ritz. Perhaps you do.
        
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      <![CDATA[746% tax increase---expensive (but still less than private school tuition);<br>
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saving white kids from having to go to predominantly black schools---priceless.
        
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