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      <![CDATA[clegg:<br>
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I have issues with TFA. On the surface, the idea is OK except that they are putting these teachers in the most difficult situations with very little support.
        
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      <![CDATA[@OTP<br>
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Sane, sound, sensible post.<br>
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I wish you had posted this as the first post on the thread.<br>
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Sure would have saved a lot of people a lot of typing.
        
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      <![CDATA[The MCS has, in the past, tried to get away from people camping out. On more than one occassion they have tried to  issue  the applications out and you bring them back.
        
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      <![CDATA[Bakerman90<br>
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Very good post yesterday at 10:35pm. A lot of positive thoughts.
        
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      <![CDATA["What do you think the ASD should do to help this school change it's ways?"<br>
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If you're referring to the recent kerfuffle, I'd say that they ought to first hire seasoned professionals instead of TFA teachers (TFA being an org that I don't support), even if that means spending more for better teachers. Students in this type of neighborhood have different requirements, so having a principle with experience leading in this environment would also be a start.
        
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      <![CDATA[clegg: take the word charter out of the picture. What do you think the ASD should do to help this school change it's ways?
        
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      <![CDATA[Hahaha, I don't feel guilty but you should.
        
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      <![CDATA[Thanks John - I didn't get any farther than Nashville. I will look for information regarding those two cities and the process.
        
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      <![CDATA[@ Clegg<br>
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The question to ask is, if it can be done by so many, why can't YOU? Or even better, why won't you even try?
        
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      <![CDATA[Belated reply to query and attempt to get thread back on topic: Re other cities with camp outs or line ups for magnet schools, a Google search turns up Dallas and Cincinnati and probably others. Also, the stats I promised have not yet been released by MCS.
        
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      <![CDATA[AP,<br>
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Ha, you couldn't be more wrong; if you refuse to educate yourself that's your own problem. There's a whole big world out there that you clearly have not taken the time to learn about.<br>
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The increasing amount of black professionals is nothing but a good start; it doesn't mean that the journey is over, just the opposite.
        
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      <![CDATA[@Clegg<br>
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Sorry, the success of western culture speaks for itself. It is superior and there is no way to get around it.
        
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      <![CDATA[ETA: To illustrate my point, what race are Tiger Woods' kids? He's part Asian, part black, and his wife was Swedish, right?<br>
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So, how do we define his kids?
        
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      <![CDATA[homer,<br>
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You mention ethinicity, and I think the other thing of note is the fact that 2-3 generations from now the number of people who consider themselves of mixed race will be significantly higher.<br>
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The barriers between races are falling down with each generation, and that includes an increase in dating and marriage between races.<br>
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We won't be around for it, but 200 years from now, people will have a hard time defining whether they are black, white, hispanic, Asian in this country. The lines are going to continue to blur over time to the point where racial identity won't be a way of defining boundaries socially as many do today.<br>
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As to the discussion on culture, AP is right.
        
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      <![CDATA[@ Bakeman<br>
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Had to run out and take kids to school.<br>
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Like I was saying, the whites and the newsmedia are saying these people are our leaders. The only true leaders are the ones that the people make, not the ones who are given to us by the powers that be and the media.<br>
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Kids are not stupid.
        
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      <![CDATA[AP,<br>
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"No. its a symptom of stupidity. Other races, with more means, are equally stupid when they use drugs and have teen having babies."<br>
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Yeah whatever, that's my point, white folks perpetuate the same negative behavior.
        
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      <![CDATA[Bakeman<br>
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Most African Americans don't drink the kool-aid of victimazation. They actually see the results of years of being victims and are still seeing the vestiges of it.
        
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      <![CDATA[@Bakeman<br>
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I read your post several times. I think I must be the first to plead guilty to overuse of the word "culture" to describe behaviors that are self-destructive.
        
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      <![CDATA[Bakeman90, <br>
Your last sentence hit the nail on the head. My question is when will they break up that hustle?
        
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      <![CDATA[The problem with several of these posts is that the writers equate misguided, reckless, irresponsible, self-destructive, and sometimes criminal behaviors with "black culture". Just because some idiotic, anachronistic, "fight-the-wrong-power-types" like former Mayor Herenton and Sara Lewis come up with lame excuses (e.g. math failure due to EBT usage) for the dysfunction and lack of academic effort that persists in many low-income homes does not mean there is a legitimate connection between "keeping it real...stupid" and "black culture".
        
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      <![CDATA[Somebody is googling.<br>
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"If you just change the books for books more culturally attuned to their lives, the reading scores would rise a great deal."<br>
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This is being culturally responsive. Although Dr. Seuss probably does the best job of all authors of presenting a diverse cast of characters that any child can relate to.
        
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Sorry, that is just not the way it works.<br>
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Attitudes and culture are not determined by the majority. Attitudes and behavior are shaped by the dominant culture.
        
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    <title><![CDATA[Re: Campers Get Slots in Optional Schools]]></title>

    
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      <![CDATA[I really wish someone understood that when they talk about the forecasting population shits, there will no longer be a majority or a minority. <br>
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Around 2050, while whites will be less than 50%, they will still be a larger demographic than any other ethnicity.
        
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      <![CDATA[@clegg<br>
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You wrote:<br>
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"It was that dominant culture that produced the current situation for blacks. All the stuff like drug use, teen pregnancy, etc is a symptom of poverty"<br>
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No.
        
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      <![CDATA[ArlingtonPop<br>
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You are a master of changing things in such a subtle way that one would hardly notice it. We were discussing culture in the way that different people, races, ethnic groups see or perceive them.
        
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