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      <![CDATA[@ Jackson,<br>
<br>
I saw that, thanks.<br>
<br>
I took no offense, having the same issue from time to time when I am negligent about my yearly eye exam.<br>
<br>
Actually, I am thinking of changing my moniker anyway.<br>
<br>
I figured if I asked for suggestions, I could get at least two from board denizens. More than one poster whould probably suggest ArlingtonSOB.
        
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      <![CDATA[@Drift,<br>
<br>
1. I believe the figure for MOE from Memphis was $68 million, or at least somewhere in that range.<br>
<br>
2.
        
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      <![CDATA[I see in this morning's CA that the school board is asking for an increase in school funding of $145,000,000.00. I have some questions.<br>
1.
        
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      <![CDATA[ArlingtonPop, as I said in a comment under Part Two, I have inadvertently toyed with your moniker a time or two, said "Pro" instead of "Pop." My apologies.
        
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      <![CDATA[AP<br>
<br>
Thank you for the suggestion. I still have a few books here left to read at home.
        
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      <![CDATA[Not my call on BTH, Pro, but thanks for the encouragement.
        
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      <![CDATA[@Jackson<br>
<br>
Yeah, I can understand that, too.<br>
<br>
I vex myself sometimes.<br>
<br>
Sorry if you have already posted, but what about that hour BTH this week? Who can make that decision?
        
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      <![CDATA[That doesn't mean I don't empathize with people who get vexed by bloviation or repetition.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[Jackson Baker]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[Well, you can see this as good cop/bad cop if you choose to, but I'm more welcoming to the debaters here. it's, after all, the digs I occupy in the Flyer household, and my instinct is to say Mi casa es su casa.Name the room?
        
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      <![CDATA[@clarion<br>
<br>
Read the Catton trilogy first. It is about a whole army, the people and their experiences.
        
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      <![CDATA[JB,<br>
Does this mean the Flyer isn't going to sponsor a name the "room" contest? I think Phlo and Jeff could really get into that.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[Jackson Baker]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[In defense of the regulars here, the school issue, already volatile, has been revivified big-time by breaking-news events (new legislative efforts underway in Nashville; fresh revelations of a school-funding crisis here in Memphis; etc.). There were probably people, post-Pearl Harbor, who got tired of reading about World War II this, World War II that.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[GroveReb84]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[This particular flare up the past couple weeks has been very interesting.<br>
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This is the start of Round 2 apparently. In the past couple weeks, we've had the budget for the combined districts released (including proposed cuts), the General Assembly getting primed to pass new legislation, the suburbs walking away from the negotiating table in the N-T case, Mays getting set to rule on the last part of N-T, and the suburban community groups going to the SCC to plead their case.<br>
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For an issue that was fairly dormant for a few months, a lot has flared up or will be flaring up in the near future.<br>
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As a suburban resident, I'm obviously watching closely, because these next few months will determine my next step, either<br>
A) stick around and wait it out with confidence that my community will be preserved, or<br>
B) get my house and finances in order to be able to make a move across the county line<br>
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I'm pulling hard for A) because it will save me money and headaches, but with so much of my finances and my children's future tied to this issue, a flare up of this much action is going to catch my attention.
        
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      <![CDATA[Bruce,<br>
<br>
I understand your point, and I am also tired (and so weary) of hearing and talking about the schools, but this story is one that just won't go away. It is constantly popping up as front page news at the CA (at least on their website), after two years the judge still hasn't completed his ruling, and the General Assembly won't either pass the legislation to enable municipal districts for the whole state or some other group of counties, or just announce they don't have the votes, they just don't feel like dealing with it, or anything to give us some sense of where this is going.<br>
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But, in our defense, the list of the CC8 demands was so mean-spirited and outrageous it brought the whole thing back to life, and the 1400 school teachers - don't even get me started on that.
        
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      <![CDATA[@ Bruce<br>
<br>
Your board. Do what you wish with it.<br>
<br>
If your paper wants to publish stories about the merger of the schools, which is a hot topic, it is not unreasonable to expect those invested, on both sides, to comment on it.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[BruceVanWyngarden]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[If by "impatience" you mean watching quietly and indulgently while you guys spend all day every day filling up the comments spots on my front page, yes, I'm very impatient.
        
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      <![CDATA[@OTP<br>
<br>
Evidently, Bruce and Jeff are getting impatient, so I will be short.<br>
<br>
It seems to me that if the SCC on one hand asserts that by "codified law", the unincorporated kids "belong" to the Unified System, even though they are part of the diversity in muni schools, <br>
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And on the other hand accuse the munis of resegregating (intentionally or not) because the munis will lose diversity without those same children, it might give Judge Mays a problem with the SCC case.
        
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      <![CDATA[AP and Grove<br>
<br>
I assume only one thing. That is the quality of the law firm representing the CC8.
        
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      <![CDATA[Jeff, I'm to the point where I'm considering setting up a "room" just for the five people whose lives seem to revolve around arguing with each other about schools on the Flyer site 24/7. It would be a mission of mercy for the rest of us.
        
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      <![CDATA[@OTP<br>
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I think you are trying to interpret the law the way you would see it. Lot of "ifs"in there, too.<br>
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We shall see, should it get that far, how Judge Mays sees it.<br>
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I may also pass a bit of advice along your way that a very wise man told me once.
        
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      <![CDATA[Srsly, yall get a room. Or a life.
        
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      <![CDATA[Again OTP, Judge Mays has the option of creating legal parameters for the creation of MSDs.<br>
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You keep saying that we can't count the unincorporated kids. If Mays determines we need a remedy and we ask Mays for those districts as a remedy and he grants them to us, then the Unified Board will lose those heads and their budget dollars.<br>
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The county BOE won't have much of a say in the matter.
        
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      <![CDATA[One thing you fail to notice or admit OTP is that these Equal protection challenges usually end one of three ways:<br>
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1) It is found that there is no Equal Protection issue.<br>
2) It is found that there is an Equal Protection issue, and some remedy is proposed and created to fix it.<br>
3) It is found that there is an Equal Protection issue and no remedy can properly address it, in which case the defendant loses the challenge outright with no remedy available.<br>
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Option 2 is a worst case scenario for us right now. Option 3 won't even be an issue.
        
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      <![CDATA[AP<br>
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I understand what you are saying, however, you have not looked up discrimination.<br>
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There are two sides to this, intentional discrimination and discrimination based on results of said action. In an ordinary trial where race was not included, the case would be under normal scrutiny and intent to discriminate would have to be proven by the plaintiff.
        
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      <![CDATA[Grove<br>
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I know what you write, you feel this in your heart. What is in your heart and what the law is are completely two different things.<br>
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No elected school board satisfies everyone.
        
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