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Moderator Ajanaku (l) and debaters Harris and Lenoir at Civil Rights Museum
So how did Tuesday nightโs debate between candidates for Shelby County mayor go? The answer is: Well enough for both Trustee David Lenoir, the Republican nominee, and state Senator Lee Harris, the Democratic nominee, to claim victory for themselves. Others may have seen it one way or the other, depending on their partisanship. And it was theoretically possible to call it a draw.
In the Beginning: The debate kicked off, as is customary, with brief opening statements. Harris went first, maintaining, as he has before, that โpovertyโ is the biggest issue of the campaign, elaborating that county government had achieved โnot enough progress fast enough.โ Given that this was an NAACP-sponsored debate, in the National Civil Rights Museum, Harrisโ contention was well attuned to his audience โ much more so than when he named poverty and โsegregationโ as predominant issues in his June 13th debate with Lenoir before a predominantly white, middle-class group of Kiwanians.
Lenoir wasted no time dealing with the elephant in the room, which was the fact, obvious to attendees, that the originally scheduled moderator, veteran journalist Wendi Thomas, had been replaced by the Tri-State Defender editorย Karanja Ajanaku. It was well known that Lenoir had originally balked at taking part if Thomas participated, on account of what he said (though he did not specifically identify) were Thomas’ โbiased public statementsโ on social media.
The NAACP then planned to have the debate with only Harris in attendance, before Thomas offered to step aside. Lenoir then changed his mind again and agreed to participate. He spun the situation by congratulating the NAACP and the other sponsors for being willing to make the change. Some subdued murmuring in the audience suggested the explanation was not a crowd-pleaser.
Aside from its underscoring what had been a Lenoir power play, the basic fact of this opening exchange was that it defined who was home and who was having to play an away game. Advantage Harris.
Definition of Aims: Early on, without stirring much reaction one way or another, Lenoir espoused his usual goals of โgreat schools, great jobs, and safe streets,โ hailing the prospect of โgrowing the economy and building a bigger potโ for the sake of โwomen and minoritiesโ and boasting his actions as Trustee in making large deposits at the black-owned Tri-State Bank.
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State Senator Lee Harris
Harris responded that โweโve got to be watchful of the language,โ that โgrowth is important,โ but โsometimes at the expense of the folks at the bottom.โ In other words, said Harris, โgrowth still means that we will continue with inequality. Those at the top get wealthier, and those at the bottom get a little bit of wealth.โ
Both got to make their essential points, with Harris earning a bit of extra applause โ both for the faintly incendiary nature of his allegation and in appreciation of its hint of originality. Lenoir would get a chance later on to expound on his โcourageโ and his purported successes in building up the county treasury for public purposes.
Education: Both candidates stood four-square for improvements in education, with Harris noting that he had endorsements from teachersโ groups and Stand for Children.
Lenoir got to repeat his plan for โan educational liaisonโ official and received some healthy applause for his plan to allocate capital construction carefully.
Clout in Nashville and Past Public Service: Lenoir boasted his connections in Nashville and his experience as an administrator and made a point of saying that he had โfinished every term I was elected to.โ That was a not-so-veiled shot at the upwardly mobile Harris, who, critics charge, is always sighting new jobs other than the one he has been elected to.
Harris quickly responded: โI served for three years on the Memphis City Council, and I ran for the state Senate because I was not satisfied with the incumbent [Ophelia Ford], and nobody else would run against herโฆ.God bless her heart; she was not doing a good job at that time, and I ran against her because it needed to be done. Iโm serving my fourth and final year in the state Senate, and Iโm giving up my seat so that new talent can come through door.โ
So far, so good, and then Harris delivered the clencher to resounding applause that even forced an admiring smile from Lenoir: โAnd the problem is not that our politicians do not stay long enough. It is that they stay too long!โ Several voices in the crowd mouthed those last two words along with him. Lenoir made an effort to recoup by once again stressing his experience as an administrator vis-a-vis an opponent who had โnever run an operation.โ
Crime: Harris drew an interesting parallel between the prospect of improved transportation as lever to create opportunities and dampen the prospect of crime. In his turn, Lenoir went for the gold, repeating a charge that had worked for him three times in their earlier Kiwanis debate, and had gone un-rebutted then by Harris. โMy opponent is soft on violent crimes. He voted against a bill in Nashville that would toughen the sentencing for criminals with guns.โ Further: โHe wrote legislation that would reverse Representative Lois DeBerryโs drugs-around-our-schools bill.โ
Harris replied, โItโs easy to criticize my record of leadership because I have a record of leadership. I have been on the forefront … on every issue we have talked about so far, for the last seven years.โ He described himself as being in favor of criminal justice reform and made an effort to characterize the bill that Lenoir had spoken of as being aimed at non-violent offenders who happened to have guns. More important, said Harris, were โthe rapists, the murderers โ and letโs stop giving these domestic abusers slaps on the wrists.โ
It wasnโt perfect, but it was far more effective than had been Harrisโ choosing to ignore the charge at the earlier debate. Lenoir would return to the โsoft-on-violent-crimeโ theme and made a point of having the endorsements of the Deputy Sheriffs Association and the Memphis Police Associationโs, โbecause they understand my position on crime, and they understand my opponentโs position, as well.โ
Both made the case for the joint city/county Office of ReEntry for ex-offenders, but Lenoir charged that Harris, on the council, had voted against funding a Second Chance program that had similar aims. Both made much of their past cooperation with DeAndre Brown, whose โLifeline to Successโ program had eased ex-felons back into the mainstream of society.
Both candidates also made a point of questioning the credibility of the federal immigration agency I.C.E., Harris going a step further and suggesting the the countyโs Public Defender should consider defending undocumented immigrants.
Redirects: Lenoir, in general, had kept pace with Harris in matters that obviously resonated with the audience in the Civil Rights Museum. He stumbled somewhat when, in speaking of the bridge shutdown protest two years ago, he suggested that emergency vehicles had been unable on that occasion to use the blocked span across the Mississippi. That drew shouts of denial from the audience, the one and only time there was heckling of sorts during the debate.
County Trustee David Lenoir
But Lenoir was able to use another question about a notable public controversy to redress a charge that has lingered against him since his appearance with two other Republicans in a GOP primary debate back in April. He and they โ County Commissioner Terry Roland and Juvenile court clerk Joy Touliatos โ had been asked about the cityโs action in arranging the takedown of Confederate statues from parks downtown and the state legislatureโs resultant punitive action in withdrawing a $250,000 grant for Memphisโ bicentennial celebrations next year.
Back then, all three Republican candidates had been dubious about the exact manner of the cityโs manner of removing the statues (by selling the parks to a non-profit and then providing equipment and personnel to remove the statues from the parks at the non-profitโs request).
Roland, who had spoken first, seemed undisturbed by the stateโs punitive attitude. โUntil people quit thumbing their nose at Nashville, thereโs nothing we an do,โ he said, alleging that the city had acted โlike a thief in the night.โ Touliatos, too, had been accepting of the stateโs reaction: โThe statues were handled inappropriatelyโฆ. If youโre going to go against state law, there are going to be repercussions.โ
Lenoir, who had spoken second then, just after Roland, addressed the matter this way: โโFirst of all, I believe in limited government and local control. So in terms of decision-making, it should happen at the local level. I would agree with my colleague [Roland] with the way, specifically on the statues, with the way it occurred, late at night on a Friday night [it was actually a Wednesday night], under the cloak of darkness, it no doubt sent the wrong message โ not only to many that lived in Shelby County but also in Nashville. But in terms of how to mitigate that, I believe that things ought to happen on a local level. In many ways we need less of Nashville in Shelby County business. That would be my response on that.โ
The Trusteeโs statement in April had been somewhat shaded against what the city had done, but technically he had not endorsed the stateโs adverse reaction, and just as technically (and, to be sure, modestly) he had gone on record as favoring local prerogatives.
Hence, Lenoir was more or less within his rights to say, on Tuesday night at the Civil Rights Museum, โIโm happy to tackle this one, because local control, local decisions, the decision needs to be made at a local level. It was made at a local level. It was passed unanimously by the City Council. It was a decision that was made, and Iโm glad I can clear the record, โcause thereโs folks out there โ itโs politics; I get it; I understand โ but you will not find me on the record as saying that I thought it was a state issue. All the lies that are going on out there are just that โ theyโre lies. Itโs a local decision, local control as far as the removal of those statues, and I think that’s the way it should have happened.โ
That answer somewhat overstated Lenoir’s position back in April, but it was not inconsistent with it, and Lenoir probably gained from the opportunity to address the matter again, in much the way that Harris had gained from the chance to deal again with Lenoirโs charge about his alleged opposition to an anti-crime control vote in Nashville.

