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Comment Archives: Stories: Sports: Beyond the Arc

Re: “Beyond the Arc Podcast #80: Should the Grizzlies Trade Marc Gasol?

I agree that it is time for some fairly drastic steps to revitalize this team. In addition to making some of trades mentioned, and not spending money we don't have on aging veterans, the Grizz should release the poorest performer in recent years, too. That has been Chris Wallace. Pera needs to find a better custodian of his money than someone who throws huge money at cripples. He has been a poor communicator, a worse judge of talent, and an apparently weak negotiator who seems to throw out his top number first.

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Posted by Reid Hampton on 05/12/2017 at 10:23 AM

Re: “Game 6: Spurs 103, Grizzlies 96: The End

Believe !

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Posted by Sidewinder on 04/29/2017 at 6:07 AM

Re: “Game 5: Spurs 116, Grizzlies 103: Home Cooking

The one positive is that I think Conley may finally be earning his first All-Star bid next year by the way he's playing right now.

This is the time most of the national guys will see him, and he's putting on a show. This is the best I've ever seen him play.

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Posted by GroveReb84 on 04/26/2017 at 8:30 AM

Re: “Game 4: Grizzlies 110, Spurs 108: One For The Ages

Excellent analysis, Mr. Lipe. Great to see the Grizz grind another one out.

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Posted by OakTree on 04/23/2017 at 11:23 AM

Re: “Game 3: Grizzlies 105, Spurs 94: Grindhouse Forever

I almost felt bad for soon to be 40 Manu Ginobili. In 10 minutes of scoreless play, his wide open, uncontested 3 almost broke the backboard and his careless stepping out of bounds with the ball right into the 2nd half, which led to a Gasol 3 and 9 pt Grizz lead, well, you can see the basketball grim reaper knocking at his door. He was never even in position to hopefully draw one of his patented flops.

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Posted by East Memphis Mark on 04/21/2017 at 12:03 PM

Re: “Game 1 Recap: Spurs 111, Grizzlies 82

I love Zach. But if he can't get any offense going quickly, the burden of his defense is far too heavy for the team to bear for anything beyond spot minutes.

Posted by jersyko on 04/16/2017 at 9:44 AM

Re: “Game 1 Recap: Spurs 111, Grizzlies 82

We discuss this every year since 2011 but the story is the same. Grizzlies have never had 3 good players playing together and scoring. MC and MG never seem to both play well in same game.

Rest of the team is in some kind of spectator sport. JMG does not want to become primary scorer. Who else is left to score. Zebo has been figured out by SAS since 2011 so I don't expect anything from him

Mike Wallace needs to go. He has failed to draft good players, failed to identify talent that could have flourished (Seth Curry, Whiteside etc. ) and never recruited good players.

They should blow this team up next year and start again.

Posted by Griz fan on 04/15/2017 at 11:07 PM

Re: “Tony Allen out indefinitely, "Doubtful" for first round

At least the Spurs don't have a player on the perimeter that can kill you that we really need Tony to be out there defending. Nope, definitely no one on the Spurs like that. Certainly no one whose name rhymes with The Y Skynnard. Nope, nothing to worry about.

Seriously, I think this pretty much takes the long shot chance the Grizz had and squashes it.

Posted by GroveReb84 on 04/14/2017 at 2:44 PM

Re: “Notes on “Grit and Grind: Burned in a Pale Fire”

I don't really care about the grizzlies, but this was really good.

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Posted by Liiiithium on 03/29/2017 at 3:27 AM

Re: “Notes on “Grit and Grind: Burned in a Pale Fire”

Kevin, you, Matt, and Chris are my Grizz breakdown holy trinity. That being said, all three of you take this stuff a bit too seriously. I don't really care how the Grizz culture affects society and the future of mankind. Just wanna breakdown of how we can possibly win our first round series (confindent you three writers could give me the best content on that matter). You guys won't; however, and seem lost in some game to both one-up and pat eachothers back as you wax poetic about the intricacies of the Grizz culture, grit n grind era, blah, blah

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Posted by Ted Baker on 03/29/2017 at 12:13 AM

Re: “The Grizzlies' Bad Springtime Trip

I just hope they've got enough in the tank to flip the switch come playoff time.

At this point, the 5 seed looks like a long shot. That would obviously be ideal, as I think this team could beat the Jazz and then give Golden State a 7 game series at least, especially this Golden State team.

The Spurs don't look quite as efficiently evil as they have in recent years. The Rockets though look scary good offensively, and I just don't know if this team can count on enough defense/cold nights from the Rockets to win a 7 game set. Unfortunately, it now looks like a 1st or 2nd round exit at best.

On the Golden State thing, it's odd to say, but I think picking up Durant made them a weaker team, mainly because of what they let go.

Letting Ezeli and Bogut go took away their rim protection defensively, and it took away some of their rebounding. Oddly enough, Durant is the guy that's helping pick up some of that slack, but he's going to be defending guys on the perimeter a good bit, which leaves a more open lane than they had last year. Point being, they already had elite scorers, enough to go around and keep other teams honest. Adding one more doesn't really add that much to your offense. What they lost on the interior, in my opinion, hurts them more than what they added in terms of offensive fire power.

That's why it would be nice to get to that 5 seed. Unfortunately, it's not happening unless this team decides to grind it out for 8 games straight to close 8-0. Even then, you still need a LOT of help.

Posted by GroveReb84 on 03/28/2017 at 9:44 AM

Re: “Chandler Parsons out indefinitely with partial meniscus tear

Between the performance issues and this new injury, I think it's pretty clear that he needs to just shut it down. If he needs surgery, go get it and work toward next season.

He's been a drag on this year's team. He knows it. The coaches know it. The only reason he's been getting minutes is because they're wanting to work toward a chemistry for the future. The injury provides cover to go ahead and shut it down and get ready to be 100% next year.

Fiz found a good starting line up with Conley, Gasol, J-Mike, Carter, and Allen last night. Stick with that. Work Zach heavy minutes off the bench, and try to reclaim the defensive intensity of past seasons over the final few weeks to give us a fighting chance in a first round match up with what now looks like a best case scenario of the Rockets.

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Posted by GroveReb84 on 03/14/2017 at 10:15 AM

Re: “Clippers 114, Grizzlies 98: The Pinto and the Guardrail

I can't say I disagree with much of what has been said--except for that last ridiculous comment--but I also have real problems with just giving up on the year. It may be the wiser long term approach to take, no doubt about it, but I feel like it is showing such a huge amount of disrespect to the fans to just say we will worry about it next year. It is not easy to attend all of these games, to give up our family time to spend it with the Grizzlies, and I certainly have to work very hard to come up with the money to pay for the multiple games that we attend. To dismiss all of that is to spit in my face, and when I see the lack of effort, it makes me angry that we care so much. It's hard enough seeing that the players don't give a damn about the fans, I wish the reporters following the team would at least show the courtesy of mentioning how hard this is for us.

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Posted by grizzdoc on 03/11/2017 at 12:01 PM

Re: “Clippers 114, Grizzlies 98: The Pinto and the Guardrail

You people that keep saying the same ole BS about Mike Conley needing a backup, is disturbing. Mike Conley is very mediocre at best. You pay him $150 mil and he gives you these numbers - 3 points (3-14 FG, 0-4 3Pt). Conley robbed the grizzlies!!

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Posted by Mike 'Mediocre' Conely on 03/10/2017 at 3:48 PM

Re: “Clippers 114, Grizzlies 98: The Pinto and the Guardrail

I get the idea that you're trying to build for your future by forcing Parsons, Gasol, and Conley to start meshing. However, that's basically sacrificing this year.

That said, Parsons didn't play last night, so you can't put any of last night on him.

I think the ultimate thing that's concerning to me is the defense. In past years, even when this team went through slumps, you knew they were going to defend and make teams have to work for it. They may be slumping because the offense bogged down, and they couldn't hit jump shots, or because they had no backup PG to take a load of Conley, but you knew they were going to bully teams and always have a shot.

This team has lost that. I don't know if it's that Tony isn't starting, or if Tony isn't starting because he's lost a step defensively. Whatever it is, the defensive communication isn't what it was, and this team is giving up too many easy shots. Team defense is a problem. When you couple that with an offense that has started to sputter, you get a team that's just not very good at all right now.

I don't know the fix. About the only thing I do know is that Andrew Harrison as a starter is NOT the fix.

I also could recommend more minutes for Troy Daniels. He's an efficient shooter and scorer. The team could use that right now. Still, I think it ultimately comes back to defense, and I don't think that gets fixed until this off-season.

Unfortunately, I've basically written this season off. The ceiling has been hit for this year's squad, and I don't see it getting good enough by playoff time to really matter. This team will either get bounced by Houston or San Antonio, and we'll be lucky if it's just a gentleman's sweep.

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Posted by GroveReb84 on 03/10/2017 at 1:41 PM

Re: “Clippers 114, Grizzlies 98: The Pinto and the Guardrail

use to be a grizzlie fan. it seems fizdale has fized. i never could justify starting parsons, he was not shooting, not rebounding, not defending. like zach, fizdale could have said, okay i am playing parsons on the second unit to get him easier baskets and less work on defense until he is ready to start. at the three you could run troy or james in opposing team matchups. it seems you could start brandon at the four no argument there. to read about t.a. not playing to his usual self is to forget about those games in december and january, you know before this, whatever it is started. if i am playing and i am watching some guy making $94 million going thru the motions and the coach is supporting this then i might become discontented. in deed, the grizz could be discontented.

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Posted by two guard on 03/10/2017 at 1:14 PM

Re: “Grizzlies 130, Suns 112: Vincebus Ejectum

Just saw today where 538 is now projecting the Grizzlies, Jazz, and Clippers to all finish 49-33. In that scenario, the tiebreaker is still up for grabs. As of right now, the Grizzlies are 3-1 against the Jazz and 1-2 against the Clippers (1 game still to play at Memphis). The Clippers are 2-0 against the Jazz (2 games still to play, home and home). The only head to head tiebreaker that's decided among those 3 teams is Memphis over Utah. The other two head to heads will either be ties or go to the Clippers.

538 has the Thunder at 47-35.

I really think the Thunder end up with the 7 seed, which would make for quite the intriguing first round series with the Spurs. Really, if the Thunder could catch the Clippers and have them fall to the 7, the Spurs could be in trouble. They seem to struggle with the Clippers.

Should be an exciting finish as those 4 teams jockey for seeding. Personally, I would hope for the Grizzlies to get the 4 seed with the Clippers at the 5. I like that match up best of all.

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Posted by GroveReb84 on 03/02/2017 at 1:30 PM

Re: “Grizzlies 130, Suns 112: Vincebus Ejectum

wow, my view is diametrically opposite. While consistency has been sketchy at best, this team has shown that they can play with the best when they are engaged against top level opposition. The 3 pt shooting of Daniels, Conley and VC has opened up the interior, JMG is a fighter who scores in timely moments and hustles to get rebounds and second chance points. Brandon Wright is a finisher above the rim and ZBo still is holding onto the fountain of youth; Gasol is still as dynamic a scorer as anyone when he is engaged.

I choose to be optimistic but also base this on what I have seen on the court in more than a few games this season. If we are 6th seed or better, we will advance to the second round...

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Posted by grizzdoc on 03/01/2017 at 2:09 PM

Re: “Why are the Grizzlies hard to talk about this year?

Guys, I have been a diehard fan since day 1 and I for one am extremely optimistic this season, I feel like this is the best team we have had. The core 4 are there doing their thing, but we have so many guys in the supporting cast who have gone off and can continue to take off on any given night--Vince, Daniels, Ennis, Jamychal, etc. Obviously disappointed with Parsons but we have done this much without him, anything he adds will be a bonus, and I still think that he will get better this season. Over all of the yrs we have always lamented the lack of outside shooting; we have it now, and it is opening things up. I think we are seriously 1 or 2 injuries away from being legit contenders. I have faith in this group...

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Posted by grizzdoc on 03/01/2017 at 1:44 PM

Re: “Grizzlies 130, Suns 112: Vincebus Ejectum

Right now the team does not have enough fire power to challenge top teams in WC ( except those 3 wins - 2 vs GSW ; 1 vs LAC). There is no youth to propel the team. Gasol will get double teamed, MC does not have that good record against faster and stronger PGs. Zebo will get exposed on pick and roll. TA is aging and is more trick-than-treat these days. JMG does not like to shoot and is still fouling too much. Ennis can step up but needs opportunities and support from seniors. He, like JMC, defers too much to seniors. Tony Douglas is no where a good back up PG. he adds no value on the court. may be they can get Colderon. Troy Daniels is regressing with lack of consistent play time. VC is not going to give 10 points every game . So what can be done for a team that is at the bottom in the league in offense. At this stage, only hope is to get Jazz in first round and go to next round but a first round exist looms large

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Posted by Griz fan on 03/01/2017 at 11:10 AM

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