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Re: “Cohen Reacts to Comey Firing


That's exactly the concern for me. Who is going to stand up and say a REAL investigation is needed?

I think there is certainly enough there to investigate, and I think that Comey's firing is suspicious enough that the people NEED a real investigation in order to feel like they can trust the system. Why do I say Comey's firing is suspicious? Well, Trump seemed plenty happy with him until the hearing where he refused to commit to saying that anyone (even Trump) was cleared of investigation. The fact that the firing followed that hearing, and the fact that the letter from Trump tried to make it clear that Comey had told Trump he was NOT under investigation is suspicious to me. It seemed clear to me that communicating a message that Trump was NOT under investigation was a big focus of that letter. When the firing follows a hearing where Comey refused to say that, it makes one wonder.

If Chris Christie is put in charge of the FBI, and he wraps up the investigation in a month with nothing found, no one is going to trust that. We need an investigation that the people will trust.

The same needs to happen from within Congress. They need to push for a real investigation.

The other thing I will say is that I do think there could be enough people in Congress willing to go that route, because many Republicans don't consider Trump a true Republican. There are a lot of them that would be plenty happy if Trump was ousted in favor of Pence.

If I'm Trump, and there is really no Russian connection that could be used against me, nothing to feel guilty about, then I'm appointing a clearly non-partisan FBI director, and I'm asking for an immediate and thorough investigation in order to prove the innocence of my team.

If I'm a Trump supporter, that's what I would want as well. Anything less than that, and it leaves plenty of room for your opponents to cast doubt about you.

Of course, if you know that your team DID do something wrong, illegal, even treasonous with the Russians...well, then you don't really have the option of trying to secure the public's trust. Then you have to go all-in on the Nixon method of firing anyone who dares turn over rocks that might lead down paths that don't work out for you, and you have to hope that no real investigation is ever allowed to take place.

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Posted by GroveReb84 on 05/11/2017 at 8:59 AM

Re: “Cohen Reacts to Comey Firing

"politically driven speculation"? Come on, man. This is exactly what I'm talking about. If it were Hillary Clinton, or really any other Democrat, in office with all the same circumstances, would you really be calling it "politically driven speculation?"

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Posted by nobody on 05/11/2017 at 8:10 AM

Re: “Cohen Reacts to Comey Firing

@CL - The FBI is still going to do 'An Investigation'. And depending upon whether or not the Deep State wants Pence to take over, Trump will be exonerated or castigated. I still think they would prefer a controlled Trump, a bear of very little brain, to Pence, who occasionally has runs of rationality. Rending Trump apart would be a sort of destabilization which they would rather not see. As I see it. But you're right. Ultimately, it's all just business, innit?

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Posted by OakTree on 05/10/2017 at 9:51 PM

Re: “Cohen Reacts to Comey Firing

Just who is going to do the investigations into Trump's relations with the Russians? Not the FBI. Not Congress. When Nixon tried similar approach there were still sufficient people of character in Congress. Who has subpoena powers that Trump can't quash?
Was it ever really about ideology? And why was Trump chosen for the job?…

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Posted by CL Mullins on 05/10/2017 at 9:29 PM

Re: “Cohen Reacts to Comey Firing


True dat.

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Posted by ArlingtonPop on 05/10/2017 at 8:46 PM

Re: “Cohen Reacts to Comey Firing


What did Flynn get money for?

Was it for nefarious acts or did he earn it?

Are business dealings somehow hard evidence for political collusion in your mind?

I am not in a bit about the blowjob. You issue as I recall was hypocrisy on the right, so you got some evidence of Democratic hypocrisy right back .

And no, Bill was impeached based on hard evidence. When you get some evidence that Trump committed those High Crimes and Misdemeanors necessary to impeach, come on back. But right now all you got is politically driven speculation and that is not nearly enough.

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Posted by ArlingtonPop on 05/10/2017 at 8:45 PM

Re: “Cohen Reacts to Comey Firing

Flynn did more than talk to Russia. He took money from them.

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Posted by nobody on 05/10/2017 at 8:29 PM

Re: “Cohen Reacts to Comey Firing

You're actually proving my point apop. Republicans are still in a snit about a blow job eighteen years ago. But are defending or ignoring all the chump insanity.

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Posted by nobody on 05/10/2017 at 8:24 PM

Re: “Cohen Reacts to Comey Firing

Bill Clinton didn't really get a free pass for that whole impeachment thing, now did he? I seem to remember it being very big news. Even in the "liberal mainstream media."

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Posted by nobody on 05/10/2017 at 8:06 PM

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Wait wait wait a minute, you mean that every blow job you ever had, had the potential equation with Treason! Me too? And I've had 'em from communists. But never once conspired... well maybe over little things, but I would never sell out my country to some Balkan hotty for any reason.
Evidence, we send people to death row without ever finding a corpse.
Great now I have corpses and blowjobs in the mix and I have to be in bed by 9:30. Damn you Oba.... I mean Trump.

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Posted by CL Mullins on 05/10/2017 at 7:32 PM

Re: “Cohen Reacts to Comey Firing

@AP - We are not at war with Russia. So technically, they are not our 'enemy'. treason likewise has a very specific meaning. It is unfortunate that the muscle memory of the Cold War creates such a presumption of ill intent. Are we now 'friends' with China? Or 'enemies' of Venezuela? Cuba? Such terms are much too imprecise to describe the combination of cooperation and competition which all nations participate in, in our contemporary world.

I frequently tire of these sophomoric, bipolar responses by people who cannot understand anything beyond black and white, good and bad, etc. etc.

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Posted by OakTree on 05/10/2017 at 7:23 PM

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No doubt about Clinton. After all the lies, all the political cover-up, all the savaging of Monica, the blue dress with his DNA on it proved his guilt.

Show me some evidence that Trump has canoodled with the Russians and I will lead the march on Washington demanding his impeachment. So far, all I have seen is that there were some contacts between Trump officials and the Russians, which is hardly surprising, I would be flabbergasted if there were not. You don't have to like the Commies to acknowledge they exist and are players on the world stage. Taking with somebody does not mean there was collusion to throw the election. During the war, the North Vietnamese would occasionally come on our radio frequencies and converse. Spoke perfect English, too, the bastards. Speaking ain't canoodling.

Agree about Edgar. What a low life SOB.

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Posted by ArlingtonPop on 05/10/2017 at 7:13 PM

Re: “Cohen Reacts to Comey Firing

Equating blow jobs with an American to canoodling with the enemy?
Nonetheless, I think J Edgar set the bar pretty high for directorial malfeasance..... hmmm speaking of sperm stained dresses, a size 20 if I may be generous.

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Posted by CL Mullins on 05/10/2017 at 6:52 PM

Re: “Cohen Reacts to Comey Firing

No, really- Trump is on pace to spend the same amount on travel over his first 18 months that Obama spent over his full 8 years in office. All on the taxpayers dime.

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Posted by barf on 05/10/2017 at 6:46 PM

Re: “Cohen Reacts to Comey Firing


You mean like Bill Clinton, for example?

Getting blowjobs from an intern in the oval office?

Oh, right, that thing with Monica was just "a personal matter," wasn't it?

And anybody who said differently was engaging in the "Politics of Personal Destruction"

No matter he went on TV and waggled his finger at the camera and told us it was all a lie.

But then, it depends on what the meaning of "is" is, doesn't it?

Democrats give hypocrisy a bad name.

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Posted by ArlingtonPop on 05/10/2017 at 6:11 PM

Re: “Cohen Reacts to Comey Firing

I'd like to see the response from the right if any Democrat did any of the things that chump is getting a free pass on. He vacations every weekend and his wife refuses to live with him - both of these things are costing millions. His daughter and son-in-law are very involved in White House affairs and are still carrying on their own private business dealings.
Hell, a Democrat with his background would have been skewered during the campaign. Married multiple times, huge age difference in current relationship. Joked about grabbing women by the pussy to a relative stranger during a professional meeting. Wouldn't (and still won't) release tax returns.
The hypocrisy of the right is deep.

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Posted by nobody on 05/10/2017 at 5:27 PM

Re: “Cohen Reacts to Comey Firing

APop and Grove,
The use of terms like "optics" is bad optics.

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Posted by CL Mullins on 05/10/2017 at 5:23 PM

Re: “Cohen Reacts to Comey Firing

Lots of useful idiots in the Trump Regime and also among his apologists ... talking about "optics." LOL. Absolutely hilarious.

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Posted by Memphomania on 05/10/2017 at 4:51 PM

Re: “Cohen Reacts to Comey Firing

I would love to see the response from the right had Obama did something like this. Oh, and might I add did something like this about a week after holding his own rally.

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Posted by 901guy on 05/10/2017 at 4:37 PM

Re: “Cohen Reacts to Comey Firing


I think we can agree that the optics would be better if there weren't an active investigation into Trump's team.

I think Comey screwed up plenty, so I can't disagree with his removal. However, I'm saying that the optics are not good.

Like I said with my equal opportunity claim example, you can be put into a tough spot where it's hard to fire someone without it looking like retaliation. If you were a PR professional, you would advise Trump not to make this move until the investigation was complete, and everyone was cleared. Any time before that, and it just has a bad look, even if it's completely justified.

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Posted by GroveReb84 on 05/10/2017 at 3:38 PM

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