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Re: “A Compromised Greensward “Solution”

Eric, I'm glad of that (the respecting each others opinions) part. Just so you know, I only piped up here today because your comment at 8:20 am was posted before I even got on my computer and you attacked a friend/mentor/hero of mine. A lot of folks undoubtedly disagreed with Mary's OpEd on June 19th, but I don't remember anyone calling her out about it...maybe out of respect for her opinion. Again, folks will disagree with this compromise for years to come but I'll always hold out that it was the biggest coerced fundraiser for the Zoo ever.

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Posted by Scott Banbury on 06/22/2017 at 3:58 PM

Re: “Frayser to Have New Grocery-Anchored Shopping Center

Good news. But then I wonder in a city as over extended geographically as Memphis, perhaps we should deannex Frayer and attempt to consolidate folks in areas like North Memphis which are largely vacant. The higher we get the population density, the nicer the amenities we can support.

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Posted by apok on 06/22/2017 at 3:53 PM

Re: “A Compromised Greensward “Solution”

Scott, I welcome and respect your opinion, even when we disagree, as appears to be the case here.

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Posted by Eric Gottlieb on 06/22/2017 at 3:22 PM

Re: “Wahlburgers Opening on Beale

I am looking forward to this establishment to come to Memphis and I want to work there as well

Posted by smileyjbw on 06/22/2017 at 3:20 PM

Re: “A Compromised Greensward “Solution”

Eric, I don't understand why other people aren't allowed to have their own opinions without you negating them.

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Posted by Scott Banbury on 06/22/2017 at 2:47 PM

Re: “A Compromised Greensward “Solution”

The Alliance did not appoint ourselves leader of anything. We're a coalition of the willing. We understand that CPOP and the Sierra Club prefer to do things their own way. That's fine with us, and we recognize your right to do that. I don't understand why you seem to think we are not entitled to the same freedoms as you.

As far as getting used goes, obviously we see things differently. Neither of us are political newcomers. Sometimes informed people reach different conclusions.

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Posted by Eric Gottlieb on 06/22/2017 at 2:28 PM

Re: “A Compromised Greensward “Solution”

Co-opting is the name of the game these days, especially when most organization takes place publicly on social media.

How did Hillary get the DNC nod? Co-opting.

Remember that time Mike Rallings co-opted a BLM protest? He's official police director now.

But hey, just keep being naive and trusting.

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Posted by FUNKbrs on 06/22/2017 at 2:25 PM

Re: “Memphis in New Orleans: Visiting the Cecil's Hi-Hat Sign

Catfish grilled on a flat top. RE the Baker/Davis show -- it's not unpossible.

Posted by Chris Davis on 06/22/2017 at 2:21 PM

Re: “Frayser to Have New Grocery-Anchored Shopping Center

Since it's a food desert, I would assert that a Kroger would be more than sufficient. I am open to diversifying grocery options, but I am more on board with ensuring residents have proper access to food/groceries. What we should be asking is that it is not a Save-A-Lot.

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Posted by Joshua J. Rodgers on 06/22/2017 at 2:17 PM

Re: “A Compromised Greensward “Solution”

You're so right, Eric. You and OPA were NOT elected, yet chose to appoint yourselves (much to the pleasure of the Zoo, I'm sure) to speak for the community on this issue. My personal opinion, as someone who has been "reading political tea leaves" for a long time, is that y'all got used. You can continue to negate my opinion, much as you have the opinion of anyone who disagreed with OPA, but it's still my opinion. It's valid, and it's well informed.

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Posted by Scott Banbury on 06/22/2017 at 2:12 PM

Re: “A Compromised Greensward “Solution”

Scott, there are lots of park supporters. They don't all read the political tea leaves the same way, and they all have a right to address this issue as they think best. No person or group has been elected to lead this movement, and none of us can tell the others what direction to go. Just because one group reaches different conclusions from another doesn't mean that anyone has co-opted anything.

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Posted by Eric Gottlieb on 06/22/2017 at 2:02 PM

Re: “A Compromised Greensward “Solution”

Eric, for those of us that have been doing grassroots organizing for a lifetime and have been subject to other organizations taking up our cause and selling us out, cooption is exactly what happened...

From Dictionary.com:
co-opt
verb (used with object)
1. to elect into a body by the votes of the existing members.
2. to assimilate, take, or win over into a larger or established group:
The fledgling Labor party was coopted by the Socialist party.
3. to appropriate as one's own; preempt:
The dissidents have coopted the title of her novel for their slogan.

From the Cambridge Dictionary:
co-opt
verb [ T ] US /kopt, kopt/
to persuade someone who criticizes or disagrees with you to join your group so that the person can no longer oppose you:
The president co-opted journalists by inviting them to private dinners in the White House.
To co-opt is also to claim something as your own when it was really created by others:

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Posted by Scott Banbury on 06/22/2017 at 1:54 PM

Re: “Memphis in New Orleans: Visiting the Cecil's Hi-Hat Sign

What is flat top catfish. And are you and Jackson ever gonna livecast again. How hard can it be to put down a powdered doughnut and pontificate for 10min or so?

Posted by Del Curlin on 06/22/2017 at 1:52 PM

Re: “A Compromised Greensward “Solution”

Scott, for the record, no one co-opted the Save the Greensward campaign.

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Posted by Eric Gottlieb on 06/22/2017 at 1:42 PM

Re: “Memphis to Receive Support for Fighting Violent Crime

@barf

From your responses, it sounds like you don't think the lives of others are worth a single penny.

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Posted by FUNKbrs on 06/22/2017 at 1:07 PM

Re: “Memphis to Receive Support for Fighting Violent Crime

I am going to chalk this up to you being facetious.

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Posted by barf on 06/22/2017 at 12:35 PM

Re: “Frayser to Have New Grocery-Anchored Shopping Center

please, not another Kroger! would be nice to have new options.

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Posted by Lois Rachel Sims on 06/22/2017 at 12:31 PM

Re: “Watergate II

Fake news.

Because.

Nixon didn't get us into that war. He did get us out.

Trump has no tape. None were made.

There's lots more, but why bother?

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Posted by Bric-a-Brac on 06/22/2017 at 12:19 PM

Re: “Memphis to Receive Support for Fighting Violent Crime

@barf
Money is the most objective measure of value.

How else would you measure the value of life in a capitalist society except for in terms of income?

If you don't think someone is worth much, you don't pay them much.

It's pretty cut and dry.

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Posted by FUNKbrs on 06/22/2017 at 12:18 PM

Re: “On the Record

See Infosys. Former Executive. Sue. Fake news. Outsourcing. Slant. Bias. Fake. News. Russia. Russia. Russia.

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Posted by Bric-a-Brac on 06/22/2017 at 12:14 PM

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