Larry Kuzniewski
At some point between the Apology and the Crito, Plato appears to have written down this dialogue between Socrates and a Grizzlies fan. It remains undetermined whether this Grizzlies fan was just a smart person who liked to watch basketball, or was involved in writing about the team in some capacity. All that remains of Socratesโ conversation are fragments, of which these are the first two.
1.
Griz Fan: Yes, but did you see that Courtney Lee and Tony Allen are the starting wings? I assume that means Lee will be the shooting guard and Allen will be the small forward.
Socrates: Does it matter which position theyโre assigned to?
G: No, I donโt guess it does. Iโm just glad Tayshaun Prince isnโt starting. Heโs way too old.
S: I donโt think thatโs what you mean, but yes, he has been in the league for a long time. Are you sure youโre satisfied with the starting lineup?
G: Iโd like to see Pondexter, personally. I think heโs a really underrated player. I love 3-and-D guys like that.
S: Ah, yes, I see you havenโt been reading Beyond the Arc for long. Which I can forgive. What about Pondexter do you like more than Allen?
G: Oh, not for Allenโfor Lee.
S: What makes you so sure Tony Allen should be a starter? Does it matter whether he plays the first minute, or whether his minutes are used appropriately?
G: Tony Allen helps the team get off to a fast start. He scores, sets the tone on defenseโฆ Itโs a much better use of his energy for him to play early on and late in the game. Isnโt that right? Doesnโt Chris Vernon keep track of how many minutes Tony plays, and when itโs more than 25 minutes, the Grizzlies always win?
S: Those are facts. Tony Allenโs offense is helpful early in games, and he does play more in Grizzlies wins than in Grizzlies losses.
G: Then why wouldnโt he be a starter? Doesnโt that say something about his importance to the team?
S: It does.
G: Then why wouldnโt you start him?
S: I didnโt say I wouldnโt, I only asked why you would.
G: There is one thing, though.
S: One thing about Allen?
G: One thing about Allen.
S: (crosses his arms, looks at floor)
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G: Help defense.
S: I think youโve discovered something. What about help defense? Tony Allenโs help defense?
G: This isโฆ I meanโฆ itโs just thatโฆ itโs just that itโs not always good. OrโOK. Itโs often not always good. Itโs not good all of the time and sometimes is really less good than it could be.
S: I get the impression that youโre avoiding saying something.
G: Heโs bad on help defense, a lot of the time. I canโt believe I just said that. I canโt believe those words came out of my mouth. Tony AllenโI just said something bad about him.
S: Something you felt needed to be said, though.
G: Itโs the guys that he doesnโt respect. The Gordon Haywards and the no-name guys on the HornBobNetCats orโฆ guys who arenโt reputation players. He helps off of them, usually drifting towards the ballhandler. And then Jodie Meeks averages 20 points in 4 games even though the Lakers are a horrible purple and yellow garbage fire, all because TA wouldnโt stay home.
S: How much of that is Tony, and how much of that is the Grizzliesโ defensive scheme? And how much does that answer matter?
G: Not much, in the scheme of things. But now that Iโve proven that no one will shoot me with arrows if I speak ill of him, Iโve got something else I need to bounce off of you. But you have to promise you won’t tell anybody.
S: Iโm not a priest, you know. More of just an old Greek guy.
G: Yeah, yeah, thatโs cool, I know. Anyway, the other thing is this: Iโm not sure heโs going to be any good this year.
S: Heโs been good every year.
G: And every year heโs a year older. He canโt go on forever, right? Isnโt his skill set going to fade at some point?
S: Have you considered that it might be fading in front of you and you havenโt noticed? What if these lapses youโre talking aboutโwhat if those are really just symptoms of decline?
G: I havenโt thought about that. Or, I mean, I have, but I didnโt want to say anything.
S: You seem to be afraid to speak ill of Tony Allen.
G: Itโs just thatโฆ people donโt want to hear that kind of stuff. Heโs so important to the team, and so important to the place the team has found in the city, that it feels like an attack on the whole city of Memphis to say something bad about him. It feels like Tony Allen is really just an avatar for the city as a whole on some level, however much sense that makes.
S: Yes, but what youโre describing is really the nature of sports in general, isnโt it? The players, after all, have โMemphisโ on the front of their jerseys, and their own names on the back. Why then would you be wishing ill upon a whole city for talking about one player, no matter how important? Are not there other players with the same thing on the front of their jerseys?
G: There are.
S: So then, if someone else steps in and carries the team the way Tony Allen has, isnโt that then also good for the city, and the team, and whoever else the team represents?
G: It is.
S: Why then the reticence to confront what is happening? Why, then, the fear of saying these things?
G: You donโt understand, Socrates.
S: What donโt I understand?
G: Did you not see what he did to O.J. Mayo?
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2.
Socrates: So then you see that Lindsey Buckingham actually has nothing to do with the Rudy Gay trade after all, despite the fact that yes, the guitar solo at the end of โGypsyโ is killer.
Griz Fan: I do have one more question, Socrates.
S: After that one, I think Iโm ready for anything.
G: What if theyโre never good again?
S: What if who is never good again?
G: The Grizzlies. What if this is the last year that they have Conley, Gasol, Randolph, and Allen together, and then something happens, and this run is over, and theyโre never good again?
S: Do you have some premonition that this might be the case?
G: I do. Ingrained in me, I have a feeling that things like this canโt happen in Memphis for too longโlike thereโs a time limit on how long we can have nice things, and then theyโre taken away, one after the other.
S: Has this happened before?
G: My dad was a big Showboats fan.
S: I mean with the Grizzlies.
G: They were only ever good one other time, and then they werenโt this good. They didnโt win any playoff games.
S: Have any other teams been bad forever? And not had any success?
G: Of course. Minnesota, the Bullets/Wizardsโ
S: The Bullets won a title.
G: Yeah, but in 1978. Iโm speaking of recently, since the 1980โs anyway. My fear is this: this is the only time weโre going to be allowed to have a team this good, and then theyโre going to be bad, and then theyโre going to leave. Every time I see that some new city wants an NBA team, I get anxious. I feel like theyโre gunning for Memphis.
S: Because Memphis is a small market.
G: Because Memphis is the poorest major metro area in the country. It remains to be seen whether a pro sports franchise can really be a long-term success hereโwhether the local economy can actually support a pro team for a long time. Itโs worked for 14 years, but will it work for 25? For 50? No one knows.
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S: So youโre afraid of loss, and afraid of the unknown. (Scratches head) I donโt think thereโs anything I can tell you that will make you feel better about those.
G: Donโt quote Heraclitus at me, though. That Lipe guy does it all the time.
S: Iโm not familiar with his work.
G: Anyway, I just worry that this Grizzlies run is nearing its end. And I worry that when it ends, there will be nothing to replace it with.
S: Youโve discounted the possibility that the โCore Fourโ are now the โKey Threeโ, or whatever Dave Joerger is calling them these days, Conley, Gasol, and Zach Randolph. And as Randolph ages, assuming the Grizzlies are able to re-sign Marc Gasol this summer, which seems to be a straightforward proposition, it will be a โBig Twoโ of Conley and Gasol that the team is built around, with guys like Jordan Adams, Jarnell Stokes, the one they call Jonny Basketball, those guys carrying the team forward.
G: But what if they donโt? What will they do then? Will they be able to withstand several seasons of 10,000 people at games again? What will happen?
S: Basketball is not like Old Faithful, where the same things consistently happen on a schedule, year after year, and where things that are a certain way will always be a certain way. Basketball is like Yellowstone, the whole forest. Every so often, whole thing has to be burned down to be able to keep going. Without the fires, the forest cannot sustain itself. And who doesnโt like a good fire?
G: Yes, Socrates, but when a basketball team burns down, itโs not a forest burning, itโs a dumpster.
S: Perhaps. But didnโt you watch the Sixers last year?
G: I did.
S: Then you know that some dumpster fires are more fun than others.
G: I suppose thatโs true.
S: And sometimes itโs nice when the arena is so empty that Tony Brothers can hear you heckling him.
This is where the second fragment ends.

