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You say: "God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah for their sexual preferences."
The Bible actually says: "Behold, this was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had pride, excess of food, and prosperous ease, but did not aid the poor and needy." Ezekiel 16:49
Pride. Hording wealth. Prosperity at the expense of the poorest of the poor.
This is what God judged Sodom for. This is what he will judge the American evangelical church for.
As you said, "God changes not." It's time for us (so-called Christians) to repent of our pride, our overabundance of wealth at the expense of others and our failure to aid the poor and needy.
There is no need to point our fingers outward in judgment at the "gay community." God is pointing his finger inward at the church.
We love living in this city. "Move in closer, stay longer," has become our mantra.
The last time I went to Au Fond, the food was excellent... the way the lunch service is setup, however, didn't seem like they were prepared for actual customers.
When the lunch crowd actually hits, the wait in line to order is long and getting the shared waiter to refill a water glass is hard.
DuckPhup - "Think about the 'values' of the Christ-cult, Mark... gullibility, self-deception, self-delusion, willful ignorance, irrationality, intellectual dishonesty, lies, hypocrisy, and toxic, drooling stupidity."
Wow. Ouch. You sound angry.
I respectfully disagree.
I think the Christian story actually makes the most sense of reality. Faith as described by the Bible is not at all inconsistent with reason.
If you want to talk more, face-to-face or in a non-caustic environment, let me know.
Bruce & Julie - thanks for the welcome.
As to the discussion - I've got to agree with Packrat: "I 'infer' from the fact that bible-believing Christians get divorced all the time and remarry that they don't let what the Bible says get in the way of what they really really want."
Sure, CHG - some of those might be biblically "allowed" cases like infidelity or spousal abuse - but for the most part, a lot of "Christians" are Christians in name only and don't let the Bible get in the way of what they really want.
We use "God" to support the causes we're already passionate about, damn those that we don't have too much use for, excuse the radical inconsistencies in our lives, and then we go on to simply ignore whole swaths of the Bible when we find it convenient.
Of course, I would say that this all goes back to the problem of "cultural" Christianity that plagues the Southeast. Christianity as hobby (as opposed to a holistic, life-shaping transformational commitment) is really stupid. Somebody needs to tell a majority of pew-sitters in the South that there really are much more interesting ways to pass a Sunday.
Packrat - thanks for the comment. Even if I am a "pod creature." ;)
Mark - both the religious and irreligious have set values that give shape to their lives. Maybe they define those differently, or believe that they arrived at those values for different reasons - but questioning the values (or motives) of someone whom you've never met, based solely on their belief (or lack of) in the existence of God is simply not fair.
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