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Re: “Break the Cycle of Forced Prison Labor

@Anito,

What homework needs to be done? You werent really specific with your comment, so if theres some information that needs to be corrected or added to the discussion you should probably add it. Otherwise you kind of come off as someone who chuckles to themselves after they post a comment that essentially says nothing. We can see right through itWe wont give in to this. Who is we? Why do I get the feeling its a club that I definitely dont want to be a part of?

So, as of I wanna say 2016-2017, in the United States, there are roughly 2.3 million incarcerated across federal, local, and state prisons. Of those 2.3 million, around 763,000 are convicted of a violent crime; we can guess that roughly half of that (maybe more for the sake of your argument) are convicted for murder. So, around 400, 000 murderers in prisons across the US, give or take. Its a large number, but its not representative of the whole population. On the other hand, one in five people incarcerated are in there for a drug offense, about 456,000 imprisoned for some kind of non-violent drug offense, like possession or trafficking. Although these numbers fluctuate because its hard to get a firm grasp of who exactly is being incarcerated and for what, it seems that there are more people locked up for nonviolent crimes than violent crimes. Source is here: https://www.prisonpolicy.org/reports/pie2018.html.

All that data being said, it doesnt excuse any of the practices US prisons use. The prison population could be 100% serial killers and that still doesnt justify slave labor. The whole purpose of prisons in the United States, or at least the government likes to claim when asked, is rehabilitation. You cant have genuine rehabilitation when youre denying these people their human rights.

Read the demands of those striking. They want the prisons conditions to be improved, a mandatory possibility of parole for all peoples, a serious change to how our judicial system overcharges and abuses the rights of Black and brown peoples in our communities, equal access to rehabilitation programs, ending slave labor, and so much more. If you wanna read them, here: https://incarceratedworkers.org/campaigns/prison-strike-2018. They arent asking to clean the slate, to abolish prisons and let all crimes be legal like were in the Purge or something. They want prisons to function as theyre supposed to, or at least how everyone claims theyre supposed to. Everyone should be allowed a chance for rehabilitation, a chance to reform and grow and repent. No matter if a murderer or a tax evader, a second chance should be given.

Since you like your personal examples (what if someone murdered a family member, how would feel about this), lets try a new one. Lets say youre part of that 1 in 5 that gets incarcerated for a nonviolent drug offense. So you go to prison, get assigned breaking rocks, digging ditches, working in prison sweatshops, etc. And when you get done with this, you go back to your cell which has a falling apart mattress, cockroaches scuttling around the floor, and a toilet thats been clogged for a week now. And all around you, inmates are being abused, beaten, and severely violated. Youre denied parole, denied rehabilitation, and denied your humanity.

Im aware that it sounds clichd, but hey, thats just how our prison system is today. Lets change it.

As for @FUNKbrs,

Letting a felon steal an honest americans job sure sounds like one [a crime]. The average minimum wage inside the prison system as of 2017 is $3.45. In states like Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, and Texas, you know, those Southern prisons with a large population of Black and brown peoples serving for nonviolent crimes, there is no minimum wage. Source is here: https://www.prisonpolicy.org/blog/2017/04/10/wages/. At all. So, theyre not really getting paid or making a living. Why do I imagine that the people cry out about losing jobs to immigrants and prisoners wouldnt actually do the work these people are doing for the pay that theyre receiving?

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Posted by somekindoflobster on 09/13/2018 at 11:25 AM
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